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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 28 Mar 03 9.51am Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Quote the despotic banana at 28 Mar 2003 9:25am

So the Americans are calling up an extra 120,000 troops to Iraq, and they're claiming that they had planned to do so from the start. Bollox! They should admit that they were completely thrown by the support for Saddam and the resistance in Iraq. Not everyone capitulates in the face of American greed and bullying, be that for better or worse...

So I take it you won't be going to the USA on hols then?

 

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Bexter Flag By the Sea 28 Mar 03 10.20am Send a Private Message to Bexter Add Bexter as a friend

indeed - i mean, how stupid do they think we are?
planned - my arse!

 

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the despotic banana Flag Dept. of Baboon Maintenance 28 Mar 03 10.58am Send a Private Message to the despotic banana Add the despotic banana as a friend

Quote Penge Eagle at 28 Mar 2003 9:51am

Quote the despotic banana at 28 Mar 2003 9:25am

So the Americans are calling up an extra 120,000 troops to Iraq, and they're claiming that they had planned to do so from the start. Bollox! They should admit that they were completely thrown by the support for Saddam and the resistance in Iraq. Not everyone capitulates in the face of American greed and bullying, be that for better or worse...

So I take it you won't be going to the USA on hols then?

Actually, I fancy a trip to Disneyland. All this Mickey Mouse politics has whetted my appetite...


 


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OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 28 Mar 03 3.19pm Send a Private Message to OknotOK Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add OknotOK as a friend

[Link]

Now that does scare me.

Plsu it would be interesting to know whether anything from this [Link] had actually been used

 


"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

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OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 28 Mar 03 3.23pm Send a Private Message to OknotOK Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add OknotOK as a friend

More positively, the first shipment of aid has arrived at Umm Qasar

The assault on hearts and minds begins.

[Link]

 


"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

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Bexter Flag By the Sea 28 Mar 03 3.27pm Send a Private Message to Bexter Add Bexter as a friend

when i saw the words 'willy' and 'column' in that link i was hoping for something else...

 

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OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 28 Mar 03 3.35pm Send a Private Message to OknotOK Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add OknotOK as a friend

Quote Bexter at 28 Mar 2003 3:27pm

when i saw the words 'willy' and 'column' in that link i was hoping for something else...

I hadn't even noticed! Sorry to disappoint you. I am sure there are plenty of sites out there for a girl with a *ahem* healthy appetite though!

 


"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

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the despotic banana Flag Dept. of Baboon Maintenance 28 Mar 03 4.38pm Send a Private Message to the despotic banana Add the despotic banana as a friend

Anyone else at all disappointed with the quality of news coverage the war is recieving? Apparently you can't move in Iraq without tripping over a news crew, and yet there's a distinct lack of new information reaching us here. TV news simply constantly recycles peices of footage (One seconds-long film was repeated 11 times in an hour on the BBC!) and the promised hourly updates on various news websites just haven't been happening. With so little actually happening surely there's no way you can justify giving so much coverage to the conflict?

 


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Bexter Flag By the Sea 28 Mar 03 4.42pm Send a Private Message to Bexter Add Bexter as a friend

I only get to see the news first and last thing so can't comment. What I do know though is that I may be asking to share your bunker - we certainly ain't making ourselves popular as OknotOk pointed out (the tease!)

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the despotic banana Flag Dept. of Baboon Maintenance 28 Mar 03 4.49pm Send a Private Message to the despotic banana Add the despotic banana as a friend

Thing is, although the coverage is cr@p, BBC News 24 has some kind of hypnotic appeal; once you've turned on it's impossible to stop watching. And no, I haven't left the house (bunker) in the last week. I think my muscles have atrophied...

 


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the despotic banana Flag Dept. of Baboon Maintenance 01 Apr 03 8.45am Send a Private Message to the despotic banana Add the despotic banana as a friend

US draws up secret plan to impose regime on Iraq

Brian Whitaker and Luke Harding in Sulaimaniya
Tuesday April 1, 2003
The Guardian

A disagreement has broken out at a senior level within the Bush administration over a new government that the US is secretly planning in Kuwait to rule Iraq in the immediate aftermath of the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.
Under the plan, the government will consist of 23 ministries, each headed by an American. Every ministry will also have four Iraqi advisers appointed by the Americans, the Guardian has learned.

The government will take over Iraq city by city. Areas declared "liberated" by General Tommy Franks will be transferred to the temporary government under the overall control of Jay Garner, the former US general appointed to head a military occupation of Iraq.

In anticipation of the Baghdad regime's fall, members of this interim government have begun arriving in Kuwait.

Decisions on the government's composition appear to be entirely in US hands, particularly those of Paul Wolfowitz, the deputy secretary of defence. This has annoyed Gen Garner, who is officially in charge but who, according to sources close to the planning of the government has had to accept a number of controversial Iraqis in advisory roles.

The most controversial of Mr Wolfowitz's proposed appointees is Ahmed Chalabi, the head of the opposition Iraqi National Congress, together with his close associates, including his nephew. During his years in exile, Mr Chalabi has cultivated links with Congress to raise funds, and has become the Pentagon's darling among the Iraqi opposition. The defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, is one of his strongest supporters. The state department and the CIA, on the other hand, regard him with deep suspicion.

He has not lived in Iraq since 1956, apart from a short period organising resistance in the Kurdish north in the 1990s, and is thought to have little support in the country.

Mr Chalabi had envisaged becoming prime minister in an interim government, and is disappointed that no such post is included in the US plan. Instead, the former banker will be offered an advisory job at the finance ministry.

A senior INC official said last night that Mr Chalabi would not countenance a purely advisory position. The official added: "It is certainly not the INC's intention to advise any US ministers in Iraq. Our position is that no Americans should run Iraqi ministries. The US is talking about an interim Iraqi authority taking over, but we are calling for a provisional government."

The revelation about direct rule is likely to cause intense political discomfort for Tony Blair, who has been pressing for UN and international involvement in Iraq's reconstruction to overcome opposition in Britain as well as heal divisions across Europe.

The Foreign Office said last night that a "relatively fluid" number of British officials had been seconded to the planning team.

Last week Colin Powell, the US secretary of state, told Congress that immediately after the fall of President Saddam's regime, the US military would take control of the Iraqi government.

His only concession was that this would be done with the "full understanding" of the international community and with "the UN presence in the form of a special coordinator".

 


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the despotic banana Flag Dept. of Baboon Maintenance 04 Apr 03 8.26am Send a Private Message to the despotic banana Add the despotic banana as a friend

Reports coming in of Iraq troops counter-attacking at Baghdad Airport...

 


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