seems like you wanna have your cake and eat it too. you claim it's needed but still admit that it is wrong

just an observation - i may have taken it the wrong way

More wrong in terms of the argument. The only thing wrong about the voice is the need for a black newspaper in this multi-racial society. If you get waht i mean...

As I thought. Double standards.

The issue is this.

The content of the respective papers is, in fact, irrelevant. The point I'm making is simple: it is clearly acceptable for a newspaper to promote itself as being aimed at a black readership (qed) but, in this political climate, it would be seen as unacceptable for another newspaper to directly align itself with a white readership and would have the pc brigade bleating about it being 'racist' quicker than you could say 'hypocrite'.

It is a fact that native, white culture in this country has been largely subordinated so as not to 'offend' those whose origins are not from these shores - making excessive allowance for religious festivals celebrated by a tiny minority of the population at the expense of established and traditional customs (you only have to see the number of local authorities putting the damper on Santa and carol singers for fear of causing some kind of offence), selectively altering the way history is taught in schools so as to show the British in an unfavourable light (regardless of the benefits that colonialism etc. offered), the demoralisation of the police by describing them as 'institutionally racist' (a ridiculous expression as they are the ones who see who the crimes are committed by and know that, in some areas, it's an even money bet that the culprit is non-white and probably already known to them) and I could go on.

Given that non-whites represent maybe 7-8% of the population (if that figure's wrong, it's not much higher), why are we so sensitive about it? In practice, many, both black and white, would rather things shake down naturally over a period of time rather than introduce legislation which, in effect, tell people what they must think. As others have noted here, the problem is not with non-whites but the do-gooding, Guardian reading, left wing thinkers who have us by the throats from Downing Street, through to the town halls up and down the country.

What makes people angry, myself included, is the way that there is this rush to absorb other cultures, almost by force feeding, while at the same time making many of us (the majority of us)feel like aliens in our own country.

This isn't a white v black issue - it's about the way our political lords and masters try to control our thinking. Education about these issues is fine; making laws that end up alienating the majority is not only stupid but also very, very dangerous.

So glad we agree on something at last.

Because it doesn't really matter!

Having thought about it, however, I'd say a newspaper that devotes itself to exclusively white culture and, more importantly, explicitly states that fact on its masthead.

I'm not arguing about The Voice's content - I'm questioning its strapline. Is it ok if a publication makes a similar claim to be for white people? If it's ok for The Voice, surely it's ok for any other publication to make a similarly sectarian statement, because saying openly that it's a black newspaper most definitely is sectarian, irrespective of its content.

whatta damn good post. here here.

unfortunatly any thing that was stated as being for a white only would be deamed racsist.its been drumed into our heads by tv,papers etc and is just now accepted.

There's never a country in the world with the scent of an ENGLISH rose.....