Sure. Wait for the report was the watchword because everything else is just speculation and conspiracy theories. Now it's ignore what it says and blame Robinson for everything.

More lies.

Once again, the reminder that Japan suffer far more infrastructure and economic damage that our country from WW2 and took in no immigration and recovered. By the eighties it was an economic powerhouse doing better than us...the supposed victors of WW2....Germany was a similar story who proportionally had lost something like four or fives times our manpower.

People telling you that we needed immigrants are liars. It was a political choice and one that business preferred and still do to keep training costs and wages lower.

Now the situation has been created that we have built systems too reliant on them.....but only a liar says that this was anything other than a political choice by traitors.

Because that's what they are.

Once again, the people of this nation never asked for this immigration and were lied to about it constantly by both parties.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jan 2024 1.55am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I see the false comparison with Japan is made yet again. Japan is not the UK. It is both geographically and culturally different. Nevertheless it faces the same challenges that we do from an aging population and declining birth rate and is adopting the same, inevitable, solution, although later and better managed. The biggest reason that in the past immigration was lower there was not that they didn’t welcome or need workers, but that people didn’t want to go there. It’s isolated, speaks an unfamiliar language and has an unfamiliar culture. Like Germany they disguised immigration under a guest worker category.

I know from personal experience just how much emphasis is put these days in the Philippines for people to learn Japanese. There are many Filipinos there now doing the unskilled jobs, quietly and without publicity.

The real lie is that Japan doesn’t face the same issues or isn’t responding in the same way. It does and it is. The difference is more perceived than real.

There is though much that we can learn from in what Japan expects of its immigrants. Adopting a no nonsense expectation of behaviour and respect for the local culture is precisely what I want us to do.

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At the end of 2020, over 19% of working age benefits were paid about to ("feckless"?) Non-UK Nationals.

Once again we get the implied insult from the usual quarter that because Britain is geographically and culturally different to Japan that it somehow required third worldism and justifies destroying its indigenous culture, genetics and heritage.

It is of course pure excuse for what he as a third worldist wants and is pure rubbish.

Once again....Polls clearly show that all along the way high immigration into Britain was strongly opposed.

The argument that immigration was required comes up against the reality that Britain lost more men in the First World War than the second by a significant margin. Yet this wasn't done.

The real reasons for the decision to take in foreigners post WW2 was....as he partly implies economic....and it should also be looked at who was organising and doing it. It keys into a point I regularly make on the cultural change and disconnection the elite developed post war that differed from our First World war elites.

We see him trying to suggest that Japan is on the same pathway that Britain has taken.....he links to leftist sources who clearly want this outcome and will cheerlead for it.

The reality is the similar but not the same. Japan has business leaders who want to exploit lower wages....yes this is true, so they push a form of immigration....but it's a lie to compare it in anything like the same scale. It's also not the same as immigrants can't stay in Japan. They are made to go back once their visas expire. They can't become naturalised citizens just by being in Japan.

Japan are also ensuring that this is largely ethnically Asian immigration. They haven't got some weirdo obsession with taking in genetic stock in numbers that destroys their Asian heritage and culture. In this they are no different to the policy of Israel.

Once again, the aging population argument falls flat when we have growing automation. It's a population pyramid scheme that doesn't work as immigrants grow old too. Japan is ensuring that it accesses working largely Asian migrants who then have to leave.

Even Powell was not against this form of immigration....what caused his 1968 speech was the betrayal of the political class to adhere to their promises of sending these immigrants back.....He felt that he had been lied to himself because he initially supported the immigration policy.....but he wouldn't lie like the others once he saw the reality.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jan 2024 11.26am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Does it not occur to even someone as deluded as you that the larger the population, the more people needed to service it?

Do you not recognise that migrants will get old and need more healthcare just like everyone else?

Have the implications of this not dawned on you?

This country is almost unrecognisable from the one I was born into. It has become a lawless, dystopian, divided place where not a day goes by without some immigrant related issue in the news.

People like you have been so busy trying stop 'Nazis' that you have been blind to a much bigger threat.