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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 27 Apr 24 11.15am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Dolphin , I agree whole-heartedly. The penalties for failure at work for the lower classes is being sacked, pension impacted and possible criminal cases in the cases of theft.
These 'management types' have authorised encouraged and advocated the destruction of innocent people's lives. Yet being 'held to account' won't see salaries paid back, pensions impacted, or even facing charges. Absolutely shameful.

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These 'management types' have authorised encouraged and advocated the destruction of innocent people's lives. Yet being 'held to account' won't see salaries paid back, pensions impacted, or even facing charges. Absolutely shameful.
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I think that it is even worse than that. Van den Bogerd admitted yesterday that in the year that wrongly convicted subpostmasters won acquittals and the judge said her evidence was misleading and tainted, she was given a bonus by the Post Office.

If ever there was an example of the powers that be in an organisation looking after themselves at the life shattering expense of others, this is it.

I really hope that she, Vennells, Crichton and other seniors are prosecuted. My only worry is that their defence of "nothing to do with me", "I never knew, I didn't see that email" or "I can't remember" will be hard to break down. Surely, they must at least be guilty of gross negligence - but I guess that is not a crime.

The public might need to arrange a get together with burning torches, buy some feathers and heat up some tar.

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 27 Apr 24 11.39am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Bonfire night is to too far away. But there are people waiting to take an opportunity . .

 


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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 23 May 24 4.39am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

"Former Post Office boss Paula Vennells has admitted that evidence she gave to MPs looking into problems with the Horizon IT system in 2012 was not true.

Speaking publicly for the first time in almost ten years, Ms Vennells broke down as she was questioned over the scandal, saying her previous assertion that there had been no failed Horizon prosecutions was not correct.

In the most anticipated appearance of the long-running Post Office scandal inquiry, Ms Vennells was questioned in a packed inquiry room with sub-postmasters and post-mistresses coming to watch her give evidence.

Asked by inquiry lead counsel Jason Beer about evidence she gave to MPs in June 2012, in which she told them that every Horizon case brought against sub-postmasters had been successful, Mr Beer listed a number of cases that had not been.

"I fully accept now, that the Post Office - excuse me," said Ms Vennells as she paused and began crying.

"The Post Office knew that," she said. "I completely accept it. Personally, I didn't know that, and I'm incredibly sorry that it happened to those people and to so many others." (BBC website)

Vennells, a woman so bad at her job and a disgrace of a human being (who rejoiced at the (wrongful) imprisonment of a pregnant subpostmaster), has repeatedly lied under oath, and was rewarded with an honour and a six figure salary.
She has returned the 'honour', now i want the wages repaid,...else prison.
What's good for the goose,....

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 23 May 24 6.45am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

...And not just Vennells, the whole lot of them that conspired to line their own pockets whilst with their incompetence and lies destroying others lives. Don't just make Vennells the scapegoat. Kill 'em all.

 


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All of the above please!!

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 May 24 9.02am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Great headline in the Metro for the ex Post Office boss

"Our sympathy is in the post"

 


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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

"Former Post Office boss Paula Vennells has admitted that evidence she gave to MPs looking into problems with the Horizon IT system in 2012 was not true.

Speaking publicly for the first time in almost ten years, Ms Vennells broke down as she was questioned over the scandal, saying her previous assertion that there had been no failed Horizon prosecutions was not correct.

In the most anticipated appearance of the long-running Post Office scandal inquiry, Ms Vennells was questioned in a packed inquiry room with sub-postmasters and post-mistresses coming to watch her give evidence.

Asked by inquiry lead counsel Jason Beer about evidence she gave to MPs in June 2012, in which she told them that every Horizon case brought against sub-postmasters had been successful, Mr Beer listed a number of cases that had not been.

"I fully accept now, that the Post Office - excuse me," said Ms Vennells as she paused and began crying.

"The Post Office knew that," she said. "I completely accept it. Personally, I didn't know that, and I'm incredibly sorry that it happened to those people and to so many others." (BBC website)

Vennells, a woman so bad at her job and a disgrace of a human being (who rejoiced at the (wrongful) imprisonment of a pregnant subpostmaster), has repeatedly lied under oath, and was rewarded with an honour and a six figure salary.
She has returned the 'honour', now i want the wages repaid,...else prison.
What's good for the goose,....

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (23 May 2024 4.40am)

she shames the Christianity she claims

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

...And not just Vennells, the whole lot of them that conspired to line their own pockets whilst with their incompetence and lies destroying others lives. Don't just make Vennells the scapegoat. Kill 'em all.

Including Fujitsu, who seem to have got off lightly atm. I wonder why?

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 24 May 24 7.11am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

yeah, Fujitsu are in line for other contracts, so this is of huge importance that they come out unscathed, or damage very limited.
Vennells has some particularly distasteful character traits, but this shouldn't make her the focus of this investigation. Others have been implicated and they should all suffer the consequences. I am doubtful whether this will happen, which is why Bates threat to conduct Private Criminal Prosecutions is something I would financially contribute to support.

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 15 Jun 24 7.06am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

The Government (more specifically, certain Government personnel), which has ultimately caused postmasters devastating losses to their lives, has now deemed the postmasters Champion, Alan Bates, worthy of a Knighthood.
It's good that someone is recognised for their extraordinary positive impact on people, particularly in such adverse conditions.

Unfortunately (totally demeaning the system), other honours have gone to Nick Owen (former Breakfast TV presenter) and Gordon Brown (the former un-elected PM), and someone called Tracey Emin.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (15 Jun 2024 7.07am)

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 15 Jun 24 8.51am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Unfortunately for the government Cliff Richard already has his knighthood.

 


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