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 Teddy Eagle  12 Nov 23 8.56pm |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
Not the only one: Farage, too, was trying to pull that one. How about the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics or the Socialist Republic of Vietnam?
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Matov  12 Nov 23 9.26pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
How about the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics or the Socialist Republic of Vietnam?
And the NSDAP, or as you might know it the Nazi's, only included the words 'Socialist' and 'Workers' for a laugh. The definition of irony and, as everybody knows, the Germans are world famous for their sense of humour. Ditto with the Bolsheviks. The REAL socialists would never actually include the word in the name because then it's not actually socialist. A bit like the modern day Conservative Party wants to conserve f*** all. And Labour would rather NONE of you actually went to work. As to the 'Lib Dems'....lets not even go there. And 2 plus 2 is not actually 4. Just in the same way that Eddie Izzard is in fact, when it suits, a lady.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Nov 23 9.33pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I wholeheartedly agree. If I carried or wrapped myself in a Palestine flag, I would be dubbed as "Pro-Palestine". I did similar with the great "Union Jack" and I would be labelled a violent member of the "Far-Right". This is simply untrue. Waving the Union Jack at the remembrance parade is a clear sign of patriotism. A bare chested, football hooligan holding a pint in the other hand and chanting racist words outside a mosque whilst waving the Union Jack in the other is a clear sign of provocation. It all depends on the circumstances and intent.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 12 Nov 23 9.34pm |
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Originally posted by inflikted
Oh dear, found the person who thinks national socialism is socialism. please don't bore us with your ignorance of history. There are many discredited ideologies, including both of those mentioned above. and the Nazi's WERE socialists because both have been AntiSemitic violent cv.nts. Uncle Joe...Stalin was every bit as AntiSemitic and genocidal as the rest of them. Edited by PalazioVecchio (12 Nov 2023 9.45pm) Edited by PalazioVecchio (12 Nov 2023 9.53pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Nov 23 9.56pm |
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I predicted at the start of this thread that no one here would engage or admit to being far right. I was wrong about both. There has been one who has been honest enough to accept the epithet and lots of engagement. Unfortunately almost all of it a liturgy of denial blended with the usual insults. People never like to see themselves as extreme. They always believe they are part of the majority in the middle. However far right others see you as, you don’t as there are always others even more extreme than you. Then along comes someone with obvious specialist knowledge which causes a few worried responses. How do we counter this? They know their stuff. Deny? Insult? We cannot argue from strength. We have been rumbled. It’s quite amusing. Sad to witness but still amusing.
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 georgenorman 12 Nov 23 9.57pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
None of them Socialist. In fact, Soclialist is double speak. And the NSDAP, or as you might know it the Nazi's, only included the words 'Socialist' and 'Workers' for a laugh. The definition of irony and, as everybody knows, the Germans are world famous for their sense of humour. Ditto with the Bolsheviks. The REAL socialists would never actually include the word in the name because then it's not actually socialist. A bit like the modern day Conservative Party wants to conserve f*** all. And Labour would rather NONE of you actually went to work. As to the 'Lib Dems'....lets not even go there. And 2 plus 2 is not actually 4. Just in the same way that Eddie Izzard is in fact, when it suits, a lady. OK, so who were, or are, socialist countries?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Nov 23 10.00pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
please don't bore us with your ignorance of history. There are many discredited ideologies, including both of those mentioned above. and the Nazi's WERE socialists because both have been AntiSemitic violent cv.nts. Uncle Joe...Stalin was every bit as AntiSemitic and genocidal as the rest of them. Edited by PalazioVecchio (12 Nov 2023 9.45pm) Edited by PalazioVecchio (12 Nov 2023 9.53pm) You mean like social conservatives are socialists?
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| Matov 12 Nov 23 10.07pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
OK, so who were, or are, socialist countries?
Because TRUE socialism has never been tried. Hence why you cannot berate Lefties just because countries have claimed to be socialist and then go on to murder millions of people and start global conflicts. All a cunning trick. And the laughs on YOU for even thinking it. In fact, it is a sign of being a NAZI (which is not socialist in any way, shape or form).
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| Teddy Eagle 12 Nov 23 10.09pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You mean like social conservatives are socialists? Or like dogs are dogmatic or cats are caterers.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 12 Nov 23 10.11pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
The REAL socialists would never actually include the word in the name because then it's not actually socialist. A bit like the modern day Conservative Party wants to conserve f*** all. And Labour would rather NONE of you actually went to work. As to the 'Lib Dems'....lets not even go there. Sinn Féin....translates as 'we ourselves' The most multiculturalist party on the whole island. You may as well have called the party 'Siad ansin' Them lot over there. And funny enough, relevant to the OP, Sinn Fein are Socialist-Liberals.....who march up and down in military uniform, deny freedom of speech and could kneecap you if you question their wisdom. Sinn Fein...Palestine..the Catholic Party with a leader proudly photographed wearing a hijab. AntiSemitic. The Left is the new Fascists. Edited by PalazioVecchio (12 Nov 2023 10.17pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Nov 23 11.14pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Because TRUE socialism has never been tried. Hence why you cannot berate Lefties just because countries have claimed to be socialist and then go on to murder millions of people and start global conflicts. All a cunning trick. And the laughs on YOU for even thinking it. In fact, it is a sign of being a NAZI (which is not socialist in any way, shape or form). We agree about something! Socialism is a very broad term. Broader even than Conservatism. Claiming your interpretation of it as the truth is as illogical as any religion claiming theirs is the only true god.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Nov 23 11.15pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Or like dogs are dogmatic or cats are caterers. Pretty much!
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