I rather agree with Josh Wheatley's take, which I will paste here:

Your opinion on Israel/Palestine will not change the trajectory of a single bullet.

But the strength of the reaction to footage of Hamas' terrorist attack will increase the number of people killed in Gaza over the coming weeks.

Put simply, Israel's counter-offensive will continue until the political cost of collateral damage becomes too great. By the time it ends, much of the sympathy and goodwill gained from last weekend's atrocities will have been spent by cynical politicians on stone-ageing Gaza.

Perhaps you believe that's the fate that Gaza deserves. Certainly the terrorists who killed and captured concert-goers on Saturday deserve little mercy. But if you extend that collective guilt to the whole of Gaza, or the whole Muslim world, then that's the sort of crazy talk that causes atrocities like Saturday's in the first place.

I believe we should lament the senseless killing of innocent people in a Middle Eastern ethnic conflict without making it the foundation for perspectives on geopolitics of the Middle East.

Those who were shocked by Hamas' actions were not paying attention to what Islamism is. Similar atrocities have been happening quietly in Europe for a while now, mostly on a smaller scale, targeting Jews and Christians alike. The rallies in support of Hamas that we saw on British streets should serve as a sobering reminder that foreign conflicts do not remain foreign for long in an Open Borders society.

If you want an opinion that will change something, focus on securing Britain's borders - not Israel's. Israel will look after its own, and so should we.

And then what? You are still left with the worlds biggest prison. Where over half the population are under 18.

Do you think they will just grow up into well-adjusted adults? Or do you think they will seek to avenge their fathers? Their uncles? I saw some terrible footage of a man in Gaza carrying the body of his 6 year old child, killed in an air-strike. And terrible footage of Israeli kids being killed. That never fades, not the scale that this is taken place.

The blood-fueding, on both sides, does not go away. They don't buy this 'Dont look back in Anger' BS we do. Refuse to even countenance it and nobody even makes the effort to pretend.

There is only the single solution. Either Isreal is destroyed or else the Palestinians are removed. That is it. This hatred now is so deeply engrained that there is no chance of peace ever. Gaza is the most dystopian place on earth. Even people in North Korea are freer than they are.

Hence why I believe Europe will be touted as the solution to the problem. And why we have become so collectively cucked over the last decade and a bit so that we allow it to happen.

And if it happens, it will destroy Western Civilisation.

Edited by Matov (10 Oct 2023 8.24am)

You make a good point. To be consistent, the left should have been telling the Palestinians, over the years, to welcome diversity and celebrate the enrichment of their country by mass immigration.

By they way, does anyone recall Wisbelch's past posts on how well the Jews and Arabs were getting on when he visited Israel.

Edited by georgenorman (10 Oct 2023 9.36am)

When people say the Palestinians should be relocated to Arab lands I think we all instinctively know it's one solution that looks obvious.....West Germany did it with East...Why not Arabs for Arabs.

However, once you drill down into that you soon understand that there's more to it.

In 1991, some 200,000 Palestinians were expelled from Kuwait within a week. This was nearly the entire Palestinian population there. They were no longer wanted for destabilizing the host country through their political organizing.

That's an obvious issue, they are taking on a people who are radicalised and know they have lost their homeland.

You could observe that they don't see the need in doing Israel a favour and solving a problem their state created. Doing themselves would also give themselves issues......Even though these are their people.

Ultimately I think they will have to.....Though obviously many of the Palestinians will want to come to Europe.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Oct 2023 10.12am)