This is the reason why ‘the right’ exist, as a counter to the lunacy which the authorities subject the innocent public to. It’s just a question of when the tipping point will be reached.

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

I see that the African immigrant that carried out the murders has been found guilty of manslaughter rather than murder because he is a bit mad. Aren't all killers a bit mad? Long, long string of previous episodes, very little done about them. Now going to be looked after in some sort of hospital and probably let out at some point when he will no doubt kill some more. Still, someone on here will tell us it's all worth while because the NHS need immigrant staff.

Edited by georgenorman (25 Jan 2024 12.34pm)

very glad none of you gammons are in charge!

A trope of a civilized society is how we treat our wrongdoers . That is not "lefty" thinking. That is Winston Churchill.

This man was tried after a long process where all the factors were weighed up and an intelligent and proper judgment arrived at based on centuries of built up jurisprudence going back to the Romans.

If the AG disagrees after reviewing everything the court viewed, then I will mend my view.

Otherwise, the correct judgment even if the relatives of the victims are baying for blood. To me, life in a prison or life doped-up in a different, high walled institution? Similar cost, same outcome.

If you Express-fed, frothing, rage-monsters don't like it, perhaps relocate to Alabama? You will be well received there.

This argument has done the rounds but I will rehash it.

The whole fabric of our penal system rests on the base of an arms length impartial "blind" arbiter determining the outcome and not those directly impacted.

Of course if it were me and my family I would personally bury him alive. Which is precisely why I cannot criticise the victims' families. Too much hypocrisy. And it is precisely why punishment decisions should be far removed from the likes of me.

However that point is incidental. If the court erred it deserves to be pulled up. Otherwise thank whatever you worship or respect that you live in a country with a well established rule of law and largely sensible albeit grossly underfunded judicial system

I have always been against the death penalty. But this takes me several notches being in favour in extreme cases. What is the point of keeping this man alive? He'll be a risk to anyone near him ie other inmates and staff, for what? so we can keep a beast alive. Not to mention the cost to tax payers.

I can see it now in 12 or 15 years, he'll have, found God, probably in Islam, shown great remorse, and pleads for release so he can do God's work. Yeah Alah's work killing infidels.

Edited by Eaglehamster (26 Jan 2024 3.38pm)

I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

What an unpleasant post. Of course the relatives are baying for blood. Perfectly justified and reasonable. If this man is going to be locked up for life, then a murder charge should have been delivered in this case. Those three poor souls were doing zero harm to anybody. Their killer was clearly of sound mind enough to murder a van driver and then try to turn his van into a weapon. For the families peace of mind a murder verdict, with the subsequent life sentence should have been sort no matter what.

The real issue here is how can a person be sectioned 4 times, and have a persistent record of refusing to take the proscribed medicine and still be allowed out on public streets? I would love to see manslaughter charges bought around the idiots who deemed him safe to be let out.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.