Agree with this.
Last years performances suggest there's a good manager in there. Something changed this year - it's easy to look at Gallagher, but I can't believe that's the whole story. His handling of OE, JPM and Eze was... Odd this year. His stubbornness to stick to his way of playing was his downfall - even when it was clear it wasn't working.
The Stat that I keep coming back to is 0 shots on target in 3 games. For any side against any team(s), that's poor and suggests bigger issues than just playing better opposition.

I think we would have seen an improvement in points under PV over these last 5 games - but not at the rate RH has achieved, and we'd still be in relegation danger as of now.

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

You only need to change Palace for Nice and its history repeating itself

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

I think Vieira's downfall was nothing more and nothing less than he was pretty clueless as a manager. He came in and had six month's of success, largely because his reputation preceded him and the players bent over backwards to respond to him. Who wouldn't be in awe of playing for a World Cup Winner and giant of the game? But once the players realised that he was "hollow", that his coaching team was poor, and he wasn't bettering them in any way, they simply switched off. It wasn't just this season that was bad; an awful lot of the second half of last season was pretty poor too. Vieira was found out by everyone; the fans, the players, and the board alike. But again, because of that enormous reputation, he got far more time than he should have.

I've little doubt that had he stayed, we'd be deep in the mire right now regardless of the easier fixture list since he left. Anyone who thinks Eze would be scoring goals for fun under Vieira simply hasn't been paying attention.

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

I think Pat was a nice guy but Roy by a first round knockout. Even looks like he's got Olise using his right foot.

Earlier in the season I doubted whether Olise, Eze and Doucoure were good enough. I think Pat got good players playing badly.

Since his return to Palace, Roy has undoubtedly shown the football world the value of a top quality manager.
When he left a couple of seasons ago, I think it's fair to say most of us were pleased to wave goodbye to him as he was put out to grass. Our football had become boring (Roy ball) and most felt it was time for a change.
On his return, he has enjoyed the opportunity to work with a much improved squad from when he left. Almost instantly his involvement turned our performances from being muddled over complicated and frustrating into simple, dynamic, exciting football. From the off, we have all enjoyed the players freedom to express themselves and show us their superb abilities and skills.Overnight he has brought out the best in our young team's ability and passion.
It has all appeared on the face of it so simple, so obvious and so successful. But the truth is what we were lacking was the midas touch of a very good, very experienced quality manager.
We now have an almost obvious team selection. Before Roy, the team was constantly changing. Not only the players, but also the tactics which were seriously compromising our results.
The brave decision by Steve Parish to remove Patrick as manager and bring in Roy has seriously paid dividends and turned us into what we are right now, which is a team challenging for a top half position and the spoils that may bring if Roy stays on as manager.

Edited by dreamwaverider (14 May 2023 4.38am)

But not the team grumpymort would pick (see the start of the Bournemouth match thread.."same old..", he said).

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