Untrue. No one would have voted for anything. There would not have been a referendum.

Those we vote to represent us would have done their jobs and made the decisions. They would not have decided to take us out. The Euro-sceptics would have been heard, as they should be, but out voted. There would have been no need to try to eliminate UKIP as a threat to the dominant party.

We would have joined under PR, participated more fully in the EU under PR and any remaining scepticism noisy but limited in its ability to cause chaos.

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It isn't though a fact is it?

At best it is an opinion.

One that, in my view, has no basis at all other than wishful thinking.

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the Dutch elections.......jeesus Wisbech, how many times

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford