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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 31 Aug 22 10.07am Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

 


The mountains are calling & I must go.

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Glazier#1 Flag 31 Aug 22 10.16am Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Actually, that was not what I said. There is no doubt in my mind that Caribbean culture, particularly Jamacian, has always been associated with drugs and gang violence. You now seem to have stopped pretending otherwise.

Clearly, and obviously to anyone sensible person, not all gang and street crime can be attributed to one demographic.
There are obviously gangs of various origins fighting over turf and drugs plus perpetrating violent organised crime, the majority of which are not of English origin.

I'm not interested in your excuses and 'underlying causes'. There is no excuse for being murdering scum. The fact you think there is tells me that we are unlikely to find common ground on this.

As a White Englishman, my perspective is one of someone who is old enough to have seen the steady decline in this country as regards criminality, mostly due to years of immigration.

It is regrettable if you take that personally.

And there you have it. Sound analytical judgement indeed.

I don't take it personally at all. Why would I? I shan't lose any sleep over this although it's a shame, imo, that fear-based prejudice should hold such sway over people. It so often leads to enmity, suspicion and yet more fear.

That's not the kind of world I want to live in, really.

But hey-ho.

I don't suppose a stupid troll like me has any chance of making any difference to your views. Lol.

Edited by Glazier#1 (31 Aug 2022 10.22am)

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madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 31 Aug 22 10.17am Send a Private Message to madcap_v2 Add madcap_v2 as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

450 arrests per 10,000 - what for Glasgow alone? Over what period of time - arrests for what crime? How many of the 250 NHC carnival arrests were white people?

Google it. I'm truly not arsed about showing people what they already know about their bias.

 


La la la your mum

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 31 Aug 22 10.22am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Google it. I'm truly not arsed about showing people what they already know about their bias.

I did, but can't find the basis and context for your claims, that's why I'm asking the questions.

 

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Glazier#1 Flag 31 Aug 22 10.26am Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Actually, that was not what I said. There is no doubt in my mind that Caribbean culture, particularly Jamacian, has always been associated with drugs and gang violence. You now seem to have stopped pretending otherwise.

Clearly, and obviously to anyone sensible person, not all gang and street crime can be attributed to one demographic.
There are obviously gangs of various origins fighting over turf and drugs plus perpetrating violent organised crime, the majority of which are not of English origin.

I'm not interested in your excuses and 'underlying causes'. There is no excuse for being murdering scum. The fact you think there is tells me that we are unlikely to find common ground on this.

As a White Englishman, my perspective is one of someone who is old enough to have seen the steady decline in this country as regards criminality, mostly due to years of immigration.

It is regrettable if you take that personally.

Not what I have said at all. Dear oh dear. Like banging my head against the virtual brick wall haha.

 

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 31 Aug 22 11.19am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend


Sad Dick Khan's idea of " an immaculate vibe "

Happy Carnival everyone

Can you imagine the reaction if the level of violence and crime on Monday was at another event such as Cup Final Day, or a music festival.

Time has come to get this annual crime fest off the streets where people have to live their daily lives. Find another venue somehow.

Edited by HKOwen (31 Aug 2022 11.22am)

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 31 Aug 22 11.41am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Not what I have said at all. Dear oh dear. Like banging my head against the virtual brick wall haha.

Keep banging that head. It might work better.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 31 Aug 22 11.42am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

And there you have it. Sound analytical judgement indeed.

I don't take it personally at all. Why would I? I shan't lose any sleep over this although it's a shame, imo, that fear-based prejudice should hold such sway over people. It so often leads to enmity, suspicion and yet more fear.

That's not the kind of world I want to live in, really.

But hey-ho.

I don't suppose a stupid troll like me has any chance of making any difference to your views. Lol.

Edited by Glazier#1 (31 Aug 2022 10.22am)

Edited by Glazier#1 (31 Aug 2022 10.23am)

Edited by Glazier#1 (31 Aug 2022 10.24am)

You got the last bit right, although it looks like it took you several attempts.

See ya.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 31 Aug 22 11.55am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen


Sad Dick Khan's idea of " an immaculate vibe "

Happy Carnival everyone

Can you imagine the reaction if the level of violence and crime on Monday was at another event such as Cup Final Day, or a music festival.

Time has come to get this annual crime fest off the streets where people have to live their daily lives. Find another venue somehow.

Edited by HKOwen (31 Aug 2022 11.22am)

I have no interest in any such events, not because of the demographic of the attendees nor what it is celebrating. It’s just festivals etc have never been my “thing”
I thought madcap’s suggestion yesterday about holding it in a park, along the lines of a music festival, with the carnival paying for all costs was eminently sensible.
It is my opinion that the taxpayer should not be picking up the costs of such events

 

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 31 Aug 22 12.05pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen


Sad Dick Khan's idea of " an immaculate vibe "

Happy Carnival everyone

Can you imagine the reaction if the level of violence and crime on Monday was at another event such as Cup Final Day, or a music festival.

Time has come to get this annual crime fest off the streets where people have to live their daily lives. Find another venue somehow.

Edited by HKOwen (31 Aug 2022 11.22am)

Can you imagine a white bloke punching a black woman to the floor in front of a massive crowd and on camera? Just imagine it and what would follow, who might speak out about it from the celebrity world, the media, the 'campaigns', the slogans, the gesturing, the ludicrous narratives, the riots etc etc?

Men hitting women is not something exclusively owned by any community or what have you, but the apparent acceptance of it does seem to differ. The most cowardly thing in the world, can only go one worse really.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Glazier#1 Flag 31 Aug 22 12.11pm Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You got the last bit right, although it looks like it took you several attempts.

See ya.

Ha ha LOLOLOL.

No need to get personal, old man.

 

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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 31 Aug 22 1.46pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

 


The mountains are calling & I must go.

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