It doesn't say that at all, and it is in 2018 two years before brexit even happened.

A bit like your trade deals, either non-existent or spectacularly useless.

A trade deal is supposed to increase trade, not reduce it.

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""Just a fortnight before the Budget in the autumn of 2017, he made a speech citing the claim on the side of the Brexit campaign battle bus that leaving the EU would free up £350m a week for the NHS.

And he called for this commitment to be honoured.

The stakes could not be higher. Sir Simon was risking his job with such a political intervention.

The then Chancellor, Philip Hammond, was known to be furious.

But the NHS chief had his way and the Prime Minister, Theresa May, agreed to another five-year funding plan. ""

It does in my book and yes it happened before we left because Mrs May got bounced into it the point was it happened.

Now does the NHS need more money sure but a promise made by the Leavers (not the government) was honoured.

Edited by Badger11 (04 May 2021 3.28pm)

One more point

If the balance of trade means that a country exports more to us than they import from us, it stands to reason that they would be happy to continue on the same terms as previously. Not a lot of negotiation needed there.

So India was a piece of cake. Australia will be more difficult but the long-standing Commonwealth and cultural ties make it easier especially as they will be hoping to export more to us.

It's with the non-Commonwealth countries that the real tests lay.

So positivity is situation dependent.

No. But reality is.

You can remain positive whatever situation you are in. Making the best of a bad job is always wise. No point in retreating into a shell and doing nothing.

There is much to be positive about over Brexit. The most obvious being the hope it will be reversed.

So, here’s the thing. You could be right about Brexit and any potential damage. You could, however, be wrong. That it was a mistake is your opinion and, for a variety of reasons, the true impact may not be seen for a number of years.
My problem with this whole Brexit thing is that some of those who voted remain arrogantly like to claim some bizarre intellectual moral high ground - as though they are educating the great unwashed - and that they feel the need to take it upon themselves to educate the ‘thickos’. Whereas leavers like to claim a bizarre victory and jump on anything we do well as a sign Brexit worked. Both attitudes are far more damaging to the UK than the vote, and it’s time to move on.

To me, both sides were handled badly, both sides made mistakes and the vote should never really have happened. Cameron was probably one of our worst ever PM’s.

But here’s a genuine question and I accept it’s rhetorical. If the EU decided to set up an EU Army, with ships, troops, planes etc from every member state what would your reaction be? Would you support, accept and be in favour of this, as a natural direction of travel for what was a trading block? This is not a loaded question at all - I don’t trust the EU and I do not trust their long term motives. (But I wouldn’t have called a referendum if I was Cameron and Johnson is hardly a pillar of the community)!

Blimey even the BBC acknowledges that the NHS got the £350m (Brexit Intervention).

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