We’ve also got a squirrel out the back who looks a bit dubious . It’s like south Central out there but us lads from the Smoke can handle it.

what about Kilburn ?

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"If anyone doesn't feel safe in Croydon, don't come".

That's already happening. Businesses aren't investing, my old company really struggled to recruit in Croydon. That's created a downward spiral. Huge offices have moved away. That's had a knock on affect on the retail and catering sectors. Which leaves the town centre unattractive and makes it harder to recruit.

It generally seems that working in Croydon had all the drawbacks of working in Central London but none of the benefits.

Most people I know from school have moved away. What seems like day to day incidents in Croydon just doesn't happen in other places.

Croydon used to have a buzz about it, now it's just dead. A colleague remarked that the Allders Mall seemed like being in Romania it was that run down.

Crime was out of control before the 2011 riots. That seemed to be the nail in the coffin.

Such a shame.

Shame indeed, although it has some great new skyscrapers going up and just completed, the skyline is great, from afar its like nyc on a night, and will only continue getting better, although this has had a knock on effect on property prices, its not cheap unfortunately. Have to agree with you, allders going was a real draw back, you could just wander around there for half hour if you had time to kill, we once sent a firm of Brighton looking for trouble through the china dept on the ground floor back in the day, they even got collared by the security and feds, just a memory! Allders and debenhams going is not great, but allders especially really hit the town, thank god for primark and m an s! It still safe to shop thou, and thats my point, if you go buying weed in the heath at night and get mugged more fool you!

So what do you suggest the under 23 good kids do? Run and hide? That's a lovely area you live in!!!!

Never said it was lovely dan, just urban, and theres the rub, its not the best part of Croydon, glad i don"t live that end, but its nowhere different than Islington, kilburn, even parts of Chelsea are rough as fcuk, worlds end estate ? Pimlico off lupus st is right next to dolphin square where mps and royalty live, but that estates rough as fcuk next door. Its all hypothetical thou, parts of Croydon are rough-so are parts of Kensington, and parts of Chelsea, but its safe as anywhere in the day to go shopping-if any shops are left after this pandemic and amason.