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Eden Eagle Kent 26 May 20 7.48pm | |
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Originally posted by the.universal
When it comes t these decisions, no one knows what will happen so I think it’s fair enough for GM to give his view. It’s a question of risk appetite. If you’re happier to invest in the stock market it’s higher risk, with higher potential returns or even a negative as you mention. Low risk = pay down the mortgage. Not sexy but it will give you a completely predictable ‘return’. Then it’s up to the person to decide. I get that the choice is with the individual - for the short term (5 years) the default position for an Adviser is usually to recommend clearIng down debt rather than invest. Not a pop at GM as I enjoy his commentary...
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the.universal 26 May 20 7.56pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
And who doesnt like a gamble. Probably loads which is why I'm potless I guess still a buzz though. It’s great when it works :0)
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Goal Machine The Cronx 27 May 20 9.52am | |
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Originally posted by Eden Eagle
I do enjoy your articles GM but have some concern over your “advice” in this instance - if John is considering purchasing another property within 5 years then I would look at reducing the mortgage balance through over payment as, which you point out, there are no guarantees that an investment will grow at 5% pa whereas reducing the mortgage provides certainty of the debt reducing and could ensure that John qualifies for a lower rate mortgage in the future as he would have a reduced LTV. This could also help John to achieve a shorter mortgage term on the new property which would reduce the interest payments. Were the 5 years to coincide with a market contraction such as we have seen recently then he might be in a position to sell his investments at a low price (and a probable significant loss) to enable him to purchase a property. I would take the same view with the cash ISA’s and not consider transferring to a S & S ISA. Just a thought.... Morning Eden. I’m pleased you enjoy my articles. You do raise a valid point here. I do need to clarify that I have purposely avoided the word ‘advice’ and have opted for ‘guidance’ instead. I don’t mean to be pedantic, but the moment I give advice, as a regulated IFA, I become liable. To give advice there is a rigorous process whereby I would fully understand the clients financial position, circumstances and objectives before making a formal recommendation. You are correct that an Advisers default position would be to clear debt first. However, things such as the individual risk appetite, capacity for loss and feelings towards debt would influence a recommendation. My personal feelings, as an experienced stock market investor, are that we are in a unique time where interest rates are at an all-time low which brings opportunity. Over a period of 5-10 years, I would be confident (others may not) of investment returns which would outperform the low interest rate debt. Of course, this is not guaranteed. I accept my suggestion is a little outside the box, it’s a new angle for people to consider. For a risk averse individual who is uncomfortable with investing and debt, they would be steered towards clearing the mortgage debt first. I don’t know what will happen over the next 5-10 years, but we can use history to help predict trends. The Barclays Equity Gilt Study 2016 found that equities have a 75% chance of outperforming cash over a consecutive 5-year period and a 91% chance over a 10-year period. I take on board that there could be a market crash at the time he needs the money, but looking at a basic ‘moderate’ risk passive fund (Vanguard LifeStrategy 60%), it is still +36.8% over 5 years despite Covid. At the bottom of the trough (23rd March 20), it was still +19.36%. Everyone will have a different take on this.
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Goal Machine The Cronx 27 May 20 12.23pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I see tax limits and brackets are changing next year. What's the difference GM. Hi Cryrst, the autumn budget announces changes which come into effect at the start of the next financial year, which is the following April. Therefore the announcements made in November 2019 recently came into effect in April 2020. A high level summary of the main taxes are as follows: Income Tax: *Personal Allowance reduces by £1 for every £2 over £100,000. Capital Gains Tax Inheritance Tax *If married, this can be transferred to the surviving spouse on death. There were no major changes to the tax bandings this April and we won't know next years until the autumn budget. Does this answer your question or is there a particular tax you wanted to query?
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cryrst The garden of England 27 May 20 2.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Goal Machine
Hi Cryrst, the autumn budget announces changes which come into effect at the start of the next financial year, which is the following April. Therefore the announcements made in November 2019 recently came into effect in April 2020. A high level summary of the main taxes are as follows: Income Tax: *Personal Allowance reduces by £1 for every £2 over £100,000. Capital Gains Tax Inheritance Tax *If married, this can be transferred to the surviving spouse on death. There were no major changes to the tax bandings this April and we won't know next years until the autumn budget. Does this answer your question or is there a particular tax you wanted to query? So 50k is the start of 40% ?
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Goal Machine The Cronx 28 May 20 9.19am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So 50k is the start of 40% ? Morning Cryrst. Yes, earnings over £50,000 are taxed at 40% higher rate. Overtime will count as additional earnings. If your basic salary was £46,000 and you had £6,000 of overtime, your total earnings would be £52,000. Worth mentioning that if you are making pension contributions, this reduces your earnings. For example, if your gross earnings were £53,000 and you were making £4,000 of gross pension contributions, your 'adjusted net income' would be £49,000, meaning you could apply for the marriage allowance. Here is a link to the HMRC website to apply: [Link]
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cryrst The garden of England 28 May 20 12.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Goal Machine
Morning Cryrst. Yes, earnings over £50,000 are taxed at 40% higher rate. Overtime will count as additional earnings. If your basic salary was £46,000 and you had £6,000 of overtime, your total earnings would be £52,000. Worth mentioning that if you are making pension contributions, this reduces your earnings. For example, if your gross earnings were £53,000 and you were making £4,000 of gross pension contributions, your 'adjusted net income' would be £49,000, meaning you could apply for the marriage allowance. Here is a link to the HMRC website to apply: [Link] Ooh interesting about the pension contribution.
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cryrst The garden of England 28 May 20 12.05pm | |
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Also would hmrc have my contributions against my N/I number because it goes to a private pension company or would I need to go back through all of my pay slips or dig out my p60 or p11d.
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Goal Machine The Cronx 28 May 20 12.41pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Also would hmrc have my contributions against my N/I number because it goes to a private pension company or would I need to go back through all of my pay slips or dig out my p60 or p11d. In answer to your first question, if you do claim for the current year and end up going over the threshold, any underpaid tax would be recovered through a tax code change the following year. For your second question, your private pension company will report your contributions to HMRC so you don't need go through old paylslips. So that you know, its the non-taxpayer who would need to apply for it. Here's a really useful link you might find interesting: [Link]
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cryrst The garden of England 30 May 20 7.41am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Food for thought GM. Thanks. And wow has it changed.
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cryrst The garden of England 30 May 20 7.45am | |
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I will add to this that I have chosen half of my investment as high risk and split the other bit low and medium. My own fault really but it is true that returns and drops are relevant to risk. Not sure now whether to split it up to have a lower high risk or just leave as is because rises which might happen are again going to be on a sliding scale.
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Goal Machine The Cronx 01 Jun 20 10.49am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I will add to this that I have chosen half of my investment as high risk and split the other bit low and medium. My own fault really but it is true that returns and drops are relevant to risk. Not sure now whether to split it up to have a lower high risk or just leave as is because rises which might happen are again going to be on a sliding scale. Cryrst, you are not alone with the the recent rollar coaster! High risk investments should be viewed as long term, not short. Out of interest, how have those same high risk investments performed over the past 5 and 10 years? The markets have certainly done well since mid March and look to be on the road to recovery. I'm sure it will continue to be choppy until we've seen the back of coronavirus though.
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