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est1905 10 Apr 20 5.59pm
Originally posted by scuffy What gives you the right to be so disparaging about people who work in McDonalds? What gives you the right to be so dismissive about the value of people who work in service industries? You might also understand that those 18 year olds are getting paid a lot of money because they have a rare ability to excel in the world's most popular game. Why does that make them less deserving of riches than top bankers or lawyers? Well for a start a top banker or Lawyer earns around 1m a year and the many years of study and dedication to their field gives them the discipline and humility to deal with that status and the earnings that go along with it. A Prem footballer can easily ear ten times that amount and not even be very good. I mean look at Benteke's track record in terms of wages to productivity. And Wickham's come to that. How many Lawyers do you know that are still paid a massive salary a year on after being off sick for that period of time? You talk crap mate. Footballers are living in a bubble, its about to come crashing down and frankly I'm glad it will
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est1905

10 Apr 20 5.59pm

Originally posted by scuffy

What gives you the right to be so disparaging about people who work in McDonalds? What gives you the right to be so dismissive about the value of people who work in service industries?

You might also understand that those 18 year olds are getting paid a lot of money because they have a rare ability to excel in the world's most popular game. Why does that make them less deserving of riches than top bankers or lawyers?

Well for a start a top banker or Lawyer earns around 1m a year and the many years of study and dedication to their field gives them the discipline and humility to deal with that status and the earnings that go along with it.
A Prem footballer can easily ear ten times that amount and not even be very good. I mean look at Benteke's track record in terms of wages to productivity. And Wickham's come to that. How many Lawyers do you know that are still paid a massive salary a year on after being off sick for that period of time?
You talk crap mate. Footballers are living in a bubble, its about to come crashing down and frankly I'm glad it will

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est1905 10 Apr 20 6.24pm
Originally posted by scuffy What gives you the right to be so disparaging about people who work in McDonalds? What gives you the right to be so dismissive about the value of people who work in service industries? You might also understand that those 18 year olds are getting paid a lot of money because they have a rare ability to excel in the world's most popular game. Why does that make them less deserving of riches than top bankers or lawyers? So In summary, these 18yr olds you speak of are in many cases earning multiples more than Bankers or Lawyers yet it takes people in that profession many years (sometimes decades) of study, hard work and climbing the ladder to reach the top. So they have earned their position through hard work and discipline. The spoiled little brats that might or might not be the next Messi (99 times out of 100 NOT!) have it given on a plate and then think they are above everyone else and the rules we all live by as a result. And then you get the likes of Andros Townsend whining to the media that he does soooo much for charity and its sooo unfair footballers are being picked on. Joke. There is a wake up call coming for Prem footballers. I'd love to be a fly on the wall the next time a contact is up for renewal, their agent tells them not only are their club only offering half what they're on now but no one else is willing to go higher. Might have to cancel that order for the latest McLaren eh?
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est1905

10 Apr 20 6.24pm

Originally posted by scuffy

What gives you the right to be so disparaging about people who work in McDonalds? What gives you the right to be so dismissive about the value of people who work in service industries?

So In summary, these 18yr olds you speak of are in many cases earning multiples more than Bankers or Lawyers yet it takes people in that profession many years (sometimes decades) of study, hard work and climbing the ladder to reach the top. So they have earned their position through hard work and discipline. The spoiled little brats that might or might not be the next Messi (99 times out of 100 NOT!) have it given on a plate and then think they are above everyone else and the rules we all live by as a result.
And then you get the likes of Andros Townsend whining to the media that he does soooo much for charity and its sooo unfair footballers are being picked on. Joke.
There is a wake up call coming for Prem footballers. I'd love to be a fly on the wall the next time a contact is up for renewal, their agent tells them not only are their club only offering half what they're on now but no one else is willing to go higher. Might have to cancel that order for the latest McLaren eh?

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 10 Apr 20 7.33pm
Originally posted by est1905 So In summary, these 18yr olds you speak of are in many cases earning multiples more than Bankers or Lawyers yet it takes people in that profession many years (sometimes decades) of study, hard work and climbing the ladder to reach the top. So they have earned their position through hard work and discipline. The spoiled little brats that might or might not be the next Messi (99 times out of 100 NOT!) have it given on a plate and then think they are above everyone else and the rules we all live by as a result. And then you get the likes of Andros Townsend whining to the media that he does soooo much for charity and its sooo unfair footballers are being picked on. Joke. There is a wake up call coming for Prem footballers. I'd love to be a fly on the wall the next time a contact is up for renewal, their agent tells them not only are their club only offering half what they're on now but no one else is willing to go higher. Might have to cancel that order for the latest McLaren eh? Spot on "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 10 Apr 20 7.33pm

Originally posted by est1905

Spot on

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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the.universal 10 Apr 20 8.25pm
Always easy to spend someone else’s money. Would/have any of the salaries types on here take a voluntary pay cut to help the cause? How much? Vive le Roy!
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the.universal 10 Apr 20 8.25pm

Always easy to spend someone else’s money. Would/have any of the salaries types on here take a voluntary pay cut to help the cause? How much?

Vive le Roy!

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Stirlingsays 10 Apr 20 8.33pm
Premiership footballers are mostly from the working classes but their wages are evidence that they are no better than wall street traders. When Jimmy Hill and co did away with the wages cap I think most of us agreed that the players deserved a higher percent. However, as usual, the power shift went too far the other way. Now it's just another one of those factors that limits lower league clubs rising and threatening the long term cabal of clubs at the top. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

10 Apr 20 8.33pm

Premiership footballers are mostly from the working classes but their wages are evidence that they are no better than wall street traders.

When Jimmy Hill and co did away with the wages cap I think most of us agreed that the players deserved a higher percent.

However, as usual, the power shift went too far the other way.

Now it's just another one of those factors that limits lower league clubs rising and threatening the long term cabal of clubs at the top.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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est1905 11 Apr 20 8.45am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Premiership footballers are mostly from the working classes but their wages are evidence that they are no better than wall street traders. When Jimmy Hill and co did away with the wages cap I think most of us agreed that the players deserved a higher percent. However, as usual, the power shift went too far the other way. Now it's just another one of those factors that limits lower league clubs rising and threatening the long term cabal of clubs at the top. Very much agree. This might just be a golden opportunity to level up the scales a bit. Cant see lower league players getting more but I for one would be very happy to see top level players get considerably less. Does anyone honestly believe that by increasing a players wages from 50,000 a week to 100,000 a week suddenly doubles his ability, contribution or effort? Of course not. Its time to get real here. They don't deserve what they are earning in many cases and all their greed, bitching and whining about being made scapegoats has done for them is make people notice how selfish they are being.
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est1905

11 Apr 20 8.45am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Premiership footballers are mostly from the working classes but their wages are evidence that they are no better than wall street traders.

When Jimmy Hill and co did away with the wages cap I think most of us agreed that the players deserved a higher percent.

However, as usual, the power shift went too far the other way.

Now it's just another one of those factors that limits lower league clubs rising and threatening the long term cabal of clubs at the top.

Very much agree. This might just be a golden opportunity to level up the scales a bit. Cant see lower league players getting more but I for one would be very happy to see top level players get considerably less.
Does anyone honestly believe that by increasing a players wages from 50,000 a week to 100,000 a week suddenly doubles his ability, contribution or effort? Of course not. Its time to get real here. They don't deserve what they are earning in many cases and all their greed, bitching and whining about being made scapegoats has done for them is make people notice how selfish they are being.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Apr 20 10.57am
The reason they earn so much is because of Sky TV’s monopoly. This is what people should remember when they say ‘market forces.’ There’s also no regulation and capitalism needs regulation or you get greed or exploitation ruining a good thing. There isn’t the need for people to be paying so much to watch football now we have broadband etc and no need for satellite dishes and resources making them and fitting them. The next possible monopoly might be Amazon. It’s probably better than clubs having their own games on their own channels/websites. That will widen the gap between big and smaller clubs. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 11 Apr 20 10.57am

The reason they earn so much is because of Sky TV’s monopoly. This is what people should remember when they say ‘market forces.’ There’s also no regulation and capitalism needs regulation or you get greed or exploitation ruining a good thing.

There isn’t the need for people to be paying so much to watch football now we have broadband etc and no need for satellite dishes and resources making them and fitting them. The next possible monopoly might be Amazon.

It’s probably better than clubs having their own games on their own channels/websites. That will widen the gap between big and smaller clubs.

COYP

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Teddy Eagle 11 Apr 20 11.03am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman The reason they earn so much is because of Sky TV’s monopoly. This is what people should remember when they say ‘market forces.’ There’s also no regulation and capitalism needs regulation or you get greed or exploitation ruining a good thing. There isn’t the need for people to be paying so much to watch football now we have broadband etc and no need for satellite dishes and resources making them and fitting them. The next possible monopoly might be Amazon. It’s probably better than clubs having their own games on their own channels/websites. That will widen the gap between big and smaller clubs. I agree with you but Sky don’t have a monopoly. There is also BT Sport and now Amazon.
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Teddy Eagle

11 Apr 20 11.03am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

It’s probably better than clubs having their own games on their own channels/websites. That will widen the gap between big and smaller clubs.

I agree with you but Sky don’t have a monopoly. There is also BT Sport and now Amazon.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Apr 20 12.10pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle I agree with you but Sky don’t have a monopoly. There is also BT Sport and now Amazon. Sky have a very high percentage of the games. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 11 Apr 20 12.10pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

I agree with you but Sky don’t have a monopoly. There is also BT Sport and now Amazon.

Sky have a very high percentage of the games.

COYP

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Teddy Eagle 11 Apr 20 12.19pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Sky have a very high percentage of the games. Yes they do which makes it even more annoying when a game is on one of the other ones.
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Teddy Eagle

11 Apr 20 12.19pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Sky have a very high percentage of the games.

Yes they do which makes it even more annoying when a game is on one of the other ones.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Apr 20 1.59pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Yes they do which makes it even more annoying when a game is on one of the other ones. Sky’s satellite dishes, sky’s monopoly and Sky movies and the other rubbish drove the prices up. If we started from here with broadband it would be a lot cheaper. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 11 Apr 20 1.59pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Yes they do which makes it even more annoying when a game is on one of the other ones.

Sky’s satellite dishes, sky’s monopoly and Sky movies and the other rubbish drove the prices up. If we started from here with broadband it would be a lot cheaper.

COYP

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Teddy Eagle 11 Apr 20 2.11pm
Completely agree with you.
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Teddy Eagle

11 Apr 20 2.11pm

Completely agree with you.

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