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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 08 Jan 20 9.55am | |
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I wouldn't be hugely surprised by strikes on missile sites. On one of the next few nights perhaps?
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Stirlingsays 08 Jan 20 10.19am | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I wouldn't be hugely surprised by strikes on missile sites. On one of the next few nights perhaps? Yep, if I'm Israel I know that I need the Iranian regime to change to a far less confrontational one.....If I'm Saudi I know that I need the Iranian regime to change to be the main hegemon in the region. That said, this isn't really the way to go about it.....unless you are planning to severely damage the Iranian military and then get your internal insurgents to take over. For that you'd need at least a main general in your pocket. I don't see it.....but if that was going to happen it would happen soon. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jan 2020 11.32am)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Jan 20 10.33am | |
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Imminent doesnt have to be in five minutes. I think the real point has been overlooked here and that the way the US has presented it has caused that quite deliberately. Soleimani's assassination would not stop any kind of planned attack! He might have been the current and revered commander but they already have a new one. Who knows, he might be even more aggressive and with the people now demanding blood more likely to carry it out. And it was an assassination. I heard a US spokesperson claim that the UN has classified him as a terrorist and therefore a legitimate target but that's untrue. He, and his organisation, were subject to sanctions and scrutiny but only the US and the EU had classified him as a terrorist.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 08 Jan 20 11.30am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I think the real point has been overlooked here and that the way the US has presented it has caused that quite deliberately. Soleimani's assassination would not stop any kind of planned attack! He might have been the current and revered commander but they already have a new one. Who knows, he might be even more aggressive and with the people now demanding blood more likely to carry it out. And it was an assassination. I heard a US spokesperson claim that the UN has classified him as a terrorist and therefore a legitimate target but that's untrue. He, and his organisation, were subject to sanctions and scrutiny but only the US and the EU had classified him as a terrorist. So, by our own definition, he was a terrorist.
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Stirlingsays 08 Jan 20 11.30am | |
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I really couldn't give a monkey's about what the UN thinks about anything at all. It serves a purpose for countries to meet and negotiate but essentially its main useful purpose is as a focal point for global aid projects.....the ones that I agree with that is.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 08 Jan 20 11.32am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yep, if I'm Israel I know that I need the Iranian regime to change to a far less confrontational one.....If I'm Saudi I know that I need the Iranian regime to change to be the main hegemon in the region. That said, this isn't really the way to go about it.....unless you are planning to severely damage the Iranian military and then get your internal insurgents to take over. For that you'd need at least a main general in your pocket. I don't see it.....but if that was going to happen it'd happen soon.
The Israeli and Saudi points are interesting. Military strikes will have to come from US forces though, I would have thought. Iran has a decent air defence system.
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Stirlingsays 08 Jan 20 11.39am | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
The Israeli and Saudi points are interesting. Military strikes will have to come from US forces though, I would have thought. Iran has a decent air defence system. If the US and Israelis wanted to do it, they would do it. If the air defence system couldn't be knocked out it could be overwhelmed. Just a matter of will....but that will isn't really there....unless you're this Salami guy. Back to fermenting insurgency me thinks. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jan 2020 11.40am)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Jan 20 2.06pm | |
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Whether anyone "cares a monkey's" about what the UN thinks is beside the point. When a US spokesperson lies about them and suggests he was considered a terrorist by them is the whole point. Making false claims is promoting fake news.
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cryrst The garden of England 08 Jan 20 2.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Whether anyone "cares a monkey's" about what the UN thinks is beside the point. When a US spokesperson lies about them and suggests he was considered a terrorist by them is the whole point. Making false claims is promoting fake news. Did you know about him20 years ago as well.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Jan 20 3.39pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Did you know about him20 years ago as well. Before or as Wisbech or Corbyn tries to hug him or teach him?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Jan 20 6.20pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Did you know about him20 years ago as well. From all I have learned in the last few days it seems as though he was a thoroughly indoctrinated guy who was capable of inspiring other indoctrinated guys. My point had nothing to do with him, or what I think of him. It was only concerned about the way the Trump administration has lied in the way it has tried to justify their actions.
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cryrst The garden of England 08 Jan 20 9.36pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
From all I have learned in the last few days it seems as though he was a thoroughly indoctrinated guy who was capable of inspiring other indoctrinated guys. My point had nothing to do with him, or what I think of him. It was only concerned about the way the Trump administration has lied in the way it has tried to justify their actions. So what did you think of him then?
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