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ChrisGC  Wantage 17 Mar 19 12.12pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
"They sowed the wind, now they will reap the whirlwind". Absolutely. As a nation we've lost sight of this and allowed ourselves to become apologists for our own proud history.
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 Stirlingsays 17 Mar 19 12.19pm |
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The larger the situation the dirtier the justice, the more perspective matters when considering right from wrong. In many situations there is no justice, there is only power and who welds it. Any study of WW2 will show that. I certainly believe that not carrying out a racial genocide means we have far cleaner hands than the Nazis but no one wins a war in a white hat. I'm proud of my nation's history and my identity, whilst recognising that it's as human as any other.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 17 Mar 19 12.25pm |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
Absolutely. As a nation we've lost sight of this and allowed ourselves to become apologists for our own proud history. I agree with you 100%. I'm sick to death of all this revisionist bollocks where the only apparent intention seems to be to show this country in the worst possible light. These people can f*ck right off.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 17 Mar 19 12.40pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
many Catholics North and South are quite happy for Ulster to stay British forever. So long as Catholic and Prod are 'equals in respect' then peace and prosperity for all. in 1968 the Catholics in the North were like the Blacks in SouthAfrica. Poor, disenfranchised (literally), excluded from jobs and social housing. And to commentators questioning 'why don't the catholics go back to where they came from?' well.....as the recent Home Secretary seems to have forgotten. The Catholics were there first, before the 800 years of British Occupation. Edited by PalazioVecchio (17 Mar 2019 10.26am) My belief (with no evidence) is that we didn't defeat the terrorists rather they started to lose support from their own communities. Much of the reasons for the start of the troubles have withered away over the years and the ballot box and the bomb strategy wasn't working. I think young people were getting fed up with the endless cycle of violence and retaliation. Hardliners will always exit but since the Good Friday Agreement no one is getting elected who believes in violence. I suppose one day the United Ireland view will have a majority and will vote accordingly but that will present it's own problems as Dublin will not want 1mm Unionists unless it is a political deal.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 17 Mar 19 3.36pm |
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Dublin does not want 1million Arlene Fosters. creationists, homophobic, xenophobic, loonies who still think its 1690 and appropriate for Catholic and Prod to be at each other's throat. but in fairness, its not 1 million Arlene's. That would be like dying and waking up in hell. Edited by PalazioVecchio (17 Mar 2019 4.05pm)
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Pussay Patrol  17 Mar 19 7.10pm |
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Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah |
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Mar 19 7.41pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
Dublin does not want 1million Arlene Fosters. creationists, homophobic, xenophobic, loonies who still think its 1690 and appropriate for Catholic and Prod to be at each other's throat. but in fairness, its not 1 million Arlene's. That would be like dying and waking up in hell. Edited by PalazioVecchio (17 Mar 2019 4.05pm) Still would though.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 22 Jan 22 10.34am |
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50 year anniversary bump.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 22 Jan 22 11.31am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
50 year anniversary bump. Unfortunately that about sums up the problems in that land. They are still remembering stuff that happened 400 years ago and no doubt will remember this in 400 years time. Forgive and forget doesn't go down well over there.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 22 Jan 22 12.51pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Unfortunately that about sums up the problems in that land. They are still remembering stuff that happened 400 years ago and no doubt will remember this in 400 years time. Forgive and forget doesn't go down well over there. does the Remembrance parade to the Cenotaph have any significance ? those who fail to learn the lessons of History are doomed to repeat its mistakes. Forgiveness yes. Forgetting ? not likely, just ask the British soldiers who built the bridge over the river kwai. Peace comes from mutual respect and working on it every day.
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 22 Jan 22 12.57pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Unfortunately that about sums up the problems in that land. They are still remembering stuff that happened 400 years ago and no doubt will remember this in 400 years time. Forgive and forget doesn't go down well over there. I think this is true for a lot of conflicts. Similar with slavery. Descendants from owners or slaves have no connection with the past, other than family trees. Yet this issue is still banged on about, like somehow people from this generation are culpable. Look at Palace / Brighton rivalry. Comparatively few were around those days to even remember how it all started, but there are plenty trying to carry it on. Some things, however unpleasant, you have to let go. Referring to people who weren't actually there, as opposed to living victims Edited by Forest Hillbilly (22 Jan 2022 1.32pm)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 22 Jan 22 1.02pm |
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The catalyst for Bloody Sunday, the Ballymurphy massacre of innocent civilians including women and children crossing a field at the back of their homes, was unknown to us until the inquest. After 48 years the truth and the Army admitted its darkest day in NI. So that's why, the truth must win out.
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