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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 May 18 6.08pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

A ridiculous thread where a handful of old white gits assert their non-existent right to represent a 'majority' who just happen to have identical views to their own.

And if anyone's view is not identical to theirs they must be 'undermining Britain'.

Throw in the usual left-right and communist-fascist tosh from 50 years ago in relation to every subject on the planet and there you have it.

Better a minority of one able to think for yourself.

That's better........

COYP


Where to begin.

I am in the 'White' majority. In terms of age, I am also in the largest group. So your assertion is statistically wrong before we go any further.

I am the majority.

You are trying the age old trick of trying to isolate people and make them seem like a few cranks, but on that you are seriously out of touch. You clearly missed Brexit and Trump. Have you really learned nothing from those examples?

Why should I be surprised? You and the idiots like you never let reality get in the way of your one eyed idealistic crap do you.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 03 May 18 6.40pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Where to begin.

I am in the 'White' majority. In terms of age, I am also in the largest group. So your assertion is statistically wrong before we go any further.

I am the majority.

You are trying the age old trick of trying to isolate people and make them seem like a few cranks, but on that you are seriously out of touch. You clearly missed Brexit and Trump. Have you really learned nothing from those examples?

Why should I be surprised? You and the idiots like you never let reality get in the way of your one eyed idealistic crap do you.

'I am the majority'.

Heil H !!

You do not represent the views of anyone except yourself.

Nobody does.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 03 May 18 7.02pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'I am the majority'.

Heil H !!

You do not represent the views of anyone except yourself.

Nobody does.

As you bring up the dreaded Mr 88 it's interesting that he is said to have commented that the easiest of his opponents to switch to his cause were communists.....because even though they fought him the hardest of all they also wanted to see the system burn like he did.

And lets not forget that in amongst the authoritarian nationalism the Nazis had quite a few big hitting domestic socialist policies.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 03 May 18 7.18pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

As you bring up the dreaded Mr 88 it's interesting that he is said to have commented that the easiest of his opponents to switch to his cause were communists.....because even though they fought him the hardest of all they also wanted to see the system burn like he did.

And lets not forget that in amongst the authoritarian nationalism the Nazis had quite a few big hitting domestic socialist policies.

Haven't you got it yet, we live in the 21st century.

You are a mindless bore with your endless left-right and communist-fascist diversions from every subject.

Perhaps you intend to drive everybody off the forum except yourself.

You are succeeding.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 03 May 18 8.09pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Haven't you got it yet, we live in the 21st century.

You are a mindless bore with your endless left-right and communist-fascist diversions from every subject.

Perhaps you intend to drive everybody off the forum except yourself.

You are succeeding.

Self reference.

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 03 May 18 8.17pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Self reference.

What are you so intent on protecting other than your own self preservation?

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 May 18 8.31pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'I am the majority'.

Heil H !!

You do not represent the views of anyone except yourself.

Nobody does.

Yawn. Who do you represent dopey?

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 May 18 8.34pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

What are you so intent on protecting other than your own self preservation?

Secularism, safety on the streets, intellect, freedom to express an opinion. Just a few to be going on with.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 03 May 18 10.51pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

What are you so intent on protecting other than your own self preservation?


Secularism and national identity, Hrolf got there first.

I have two young boys, I have skin in the game.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 May 2018 10.55pm)

 


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silvertop Flag Portishead 04 May 18 9.23am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Dannyh.V2

Yeah Labour are Aces, gets my vote

1) Up to 50 thousand 'excess' deaths were recorded at hospitals during the last Labour Goverment. (Research by Sir Brian Jarman of Imperial College).
2) Hundreds of stealth taxes, paid by all.
3) Between 1997 to 2010 gas prices rose 133% and electricity prices rose 69%. Why would the public ever trust Labour on energy prices again?.
4) The devastating impact of Labour's raid on pensions: The tax grab has cost workers £118bn no since 1997. (Office for Budget Responsibility).
5) Labour spent £148.7 million on a National Measurements Office which forces traders to measure their goods in kilograms rather than pounds.
6) The Royal Mail is now sold because of EU Postal Directive 2008/6/EC, brought in by the last Labour government.
7) Council Tax doubled under Labour - 105% increase in England, 146% Wales. (The Chartered Institute of Public Finance & Accountancy: 26/03/09).
&#128526; In 2012/13 Labour councils employed nearly 23,000 people on zero-hour contracts.
9) £660 million has been cut from Labour run NHS Wales over the last three years according to the Welsh TUC.
10) When Labour came to power in 1997, spending on NHS managers was less than £190m. By 2010 this had increased by 450% to over £1bn per year.
11) Labour wasted £11bn of taxpayers money on a failed IT project which was eventually scrapped by the NHS in 2013.
12) Labour lumbered the NHS with vast PFI repayments - £50 billion worth of loans which are costing £300 billion in repayments.
13) It was the Labour Party who awarded the DWP Medical Services Contract to ATOS on the 15th March 2005.
14) Labour started the privatisation of the NHS. They brought in the 2006 NHS Act that introduced competition into the NHS.
15) Labour introduced competition into the NHS: Competition Act 1998, Enterprise Act 2002 & Public Sector Procurement Regulations 2006.
16) In 2006 Gordon Brown cut the flood defence budget by £14 million.
17) Youth unemployment rose by more than 40% during Labour's 13 years in office.
1 Total stock of social housing fell under Labour - 421,000 homes were lost from the social housing stock between 1997 and 2010.
19) British manufacturing grew by 28% between 1980 and 1997. Then, under Labour, it shrank by 6%: falling from 20% of GDP to just 11%.
20) Labour left a deficit of £156 billion, PFI liability of £301 billion, EU Rebate loss £9.3 billion, Sold the Gold loss £6 billion.
21) The last Labour government spent so much money on Labour cronies that it had a 5% structural deficit at the height of the boom.
22)
The use of food banks went up tenfold under Labour. From 3,000 users in 2005/06 to over 40,000 by 2009/10. (The Trussell Trust/C4 FactCheck).
23) When Labour's Gordon Brown became Prime Minister in 2007, UK public debt was 44.1% of GDP. When he left in 2010, it was 148.1%.
24) Only 6,330 council houses were completed from 1998 to 2010 under Labour, compared with 17,710 in 1990 alone - Thatcher's final year as PM.
25) Tony Blair gave away a chunk of the UK's EU rebate estimated now to have cost the UK £9.3 billion between 2007-2013.
26) In 2010 Gordon Brown branded Rochdale voter Gillian Duffy "a bigoted woman" for daring to voice her concern about uncontrolled immigration.
27) Labour are now complaining about gambling. But they were the ones who wanted to build Super Casinos in some of the poorest areas in Britain.
2 Labour closed more mines in 5 years than Thatcher did in 11 years.. 211 mines closed under Wilson 1965-70.. 154 under Thatcher 1979-90.
29) Under Labour zero hour contracts increased by 74% between 2004 - 2009.
30) Since Labour liberalised the law in 2000 to allow postal voting on demand, the number of postal voting fraud in Labour areas has soared.
31) Labour wants to charge patients. Lord Warner said people should pay a £10-a-month fee to use NHS/£20 for every night they stay in hospital.
32) Sexed up dossiers.
33) Labour were responsible for the rise in payday lenders. Now they are campaigning against them.
34) Labour presided over the slowest growth in 50 years and produced the fastest decline in British manufacturing since manufacturing began.
35) Labour destroyed our border controls then with the help of the BBC denounced anybody who voiced concerns about mass immigration as racists.
36) Labour councils are the biggest users of zero hour contracts.
37) Under Labour between 1997 to 2010 the gap between rich and poor got wider.
3 The last Labour government doubled the rate of income tax on the lowest paid.
39) Thousands of dead Iraqi women and children.
40) Labour MPs to remember: Denis MacShane (jailed), David Chaytor (jailed), Eric Illsley (jailed), Elliot Morley (jailed), Jim Devine (jailed).
41) Blair invaded Iraq and Brown invaded the Treasury, both actions crippled us.
42) Labour opposes democracy in Britain by denying the British people a referendum on EU membership.

I suspect you can provide a counter, correction, explanation for quite a lot of your points. You can't argue with probably most.

As for 14 and 15 I wish they had gone further. It may have missed your attention, but the NHS is in crisis, is a wholly unsustainable project and with the population ageing even further it is only likely to get worse. I don't want the NHS to be whittled down, but something that worked with a 1940s demographic is collapsing with the current one.

 

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Dannyh.V2 Flag Stone lickers 04 May 18 10.42am Send a Private Message to Dannyh.V2 Add Dannyh.V2 as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

I suspect you can provide a counter, correction, explanation for quite a lot of your points. You can't argue with probably most.

As for 14 and 15 I wish they had gone further. It may have missed your attention, but the NHS is in crisis, is a wholly unsustainable project and with the population ageing even further it is only likely to get worse. I don't want the NHS to be whittled down, but something that worked with a 1940s demographic is collapsing with the current one.

It would seem the voters agree with it mostly, seeing as the alleged "wiping out" of Tories in the local by elections in London didn't happen, but I suppose there will be some lame duck excuse for that.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 04 May 18 11.26am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Yawn. Who do you represent dopey?

UKIP decimated in polls

So much for your 'majority'

 

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