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steeleye20 Croydon 22 Jan 18 4.59pm
Originally posted by spartakev2 Anderson and Kaikai just not good enough I'm afraid..... Edited by spartakev2 (22 Jan 2018 4.36pm) No they could be good enough, but really how do we know without a genuine policy of bringing young fit players through to challenge. The big problem with these expensive stars being sidelined for months if not years is that there is nobody pressurising for a start in their place. And they don't necessarily recover either.
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steeleye20

Croydon 22 Jan 18 4.59pm

Originally posted by spartakev2

Anderson and Kaikai just not good enough I'm afraid.....

Edited by spartakev2 (22 Jan 2018 4.36pm)

No they could be good enough, but really how do we know without a genuine policy of bringing young fit players through to challenge.

The big problem with these expensive stars being sidelined for months if not years is that there is nobody pressurising for a start in their place.

And they don't necessarily recover either.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Jan 18 5.01pm
Originally posted by europalace Hodgson and Freedman know far more about players such as Rakip than anyone on these forums. Great we've got out first new signing in the window and Roy Hodgson should get 100% from real Palace supporters. I'm pleased the club haven't blown massive amounts of money on some marquee signing. Edited by europalace (22 Jan 2018 4.57pm) To be honest I hadn't heard of him until quite recently and have never seen him play. And we certainly won't be blowing "Massive amounts" on marquee signings.We aren't shopping at Harrods. Edited by Willo (22 Jan 2018 5.12pm)
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South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Jan 18 5.01pm

Originally posted by europalace

Hodgson and Freedman know far more about players such as Rakip than anyone on these forums.

Great we've got out first new signing in the window and Roy Hodgson should get 100% from real Palace supporters.

I'm pleased the club haven't blown massive amounts of money on some marquee signing.

Edited by europalace (22 Jan 2018 4.57pm)

To be honest I hadn't heard of him until quite recently and have never seen him play.

And we certainly won't be blowing "Massive amounts" on marquee signings.We aren't shopping at Harrods.

Edited by Willo (22 Jan 2018 5.12pm)

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steeleye20 Croydon 22 Jan 18 5.07pm
If Eagles want to 'blow massive amounts of money on some marquee signing' then I will of course make myself available............
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Croydon 22 Jan 18 5.07pm

If Eagles want to 'blow massive amounts of money on some marquee signing' then I will of course make myself available............

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Happiness Stan Itchycoo Park 22 Jan 18 5.11pm
As always, give him a chance and wait and see, but have to say this is a pretty underwhelming deal. Can't get excited about a loan signing who cant speak english (prob the only swede alive), and has zero experience of Premier League or a relegation scrap. Parish needs to sort out two first team regular perms (Keeper and Striker), this might be a nice bit of cover, tidy bit of business kind of deal, but without the two glaring holes in our First XI sorted, then it'll be a pretty pathetic window. "How can I remember to keep it all together when half the moon is taken away?"
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Itchycoo Park 22 Jan 18 5.11pm

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As always, give him a chance and wait and see, but have to say this is a pretty underwhelming deal. Can't get excited about a loan signing who cant speak english (prob the only swede alive), and has zero experience of Premier League or a relegation scrap.

Parish needs to sort out two first team regular perms (Keeper and Striker), this might be a nice bit of cover, tidy bit of business kind of deal, but without the two glaring holes in our First XI sorted, then it'll be a pretty pathetic window.

"How can I remember to keep it all together when half the moon is taken away?"

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 22 Jan 18 5.13pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 No they could be good enough, but really how do we know without a genuine policy of bringing young fit players through to challenge. The big problem with these expensive stars being sidelined for months if not years is that there is nobody pressurising for a start in their place. And they don't necessarily recover either. Our academy hasn't been very competitive for some time so it may be some time before any local lads come through us into this division. In the meantime we'll be trying to snap up over 16 year olds and into early 20's for prospects. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 22 Jan 18 5.13pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

No they could be good enough, but really how do we know without a genuine policy of bringing young fit players through to challenge.

The big problem with these expensive stars being sidelined for months if not years is that there is nobody pressurising for a start in their place.

And they don't necessarily recover either.

Our academy hasn't been very competitive for some time so it may be some time before any local lads come through us into this division.

In the meantime we'll be trying to snap up over 16 year olds and into early 20's for prospects.

COYP

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Happiness Stan Itchycoo Park 22 Jan 18 5.14pm
Originally posted by Goldfiinger Obviously being signed as a short term fix for RLC. Not 100% sure whats weird about that? Making a loan signing to cover another loan signing seems pretty weird to me. I hate the loan system, but understand as it's there we may as well use it, but if RLC requires surgery then we'd be better packing him off back to Chelsea and using his space for a Premier League experienced player. "How can I remember to keep it all together when half the moon is taken away?"
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Happiness Stan

Itchycoo Park 22 Jan 18 5.14pm

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Obviously being signed as a short term fix for RLC. Not 100% sure whats weird about that?

Making a loan signing to cover another loan signing seems pretty weird to me.

I hate the loan system, but understand as it's there we may as well use it, but if RLC requires surgery then we'd be better packing him off back to Chelsea and using his space for a Premier League experienced player.

"How can I remember to keep it all together when half the moon is taken away?"

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 22 Jan 18 5.15pm
Originally posted by Happiness Stan As always, give him a chance and wait and see, but have to say this is a pretty underwhelming deal. Can't get excited about a loan signing who cant speak english (prob the only swede alive), and has zero experience of Premier League or a relegation scrap. Parish needs to sort out two first team regular perms (Keeper and Striker), this might be a nice bit of cover, tidy bit of business kind of deal, but without the two glaring holes in our First XI sorted, then it'll be a pretty pathetic window. Yep. Let's see. January is difficult. August was negligent. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 22 Jan 18 5.15pm

Originally posted by Happiness Stan

Yep. Let's see. January is difficult. August was negligent.

COYP

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Jan 18 5.15pm
Originally posted by Happiness Stan As always, give him a chance and wait and see, but have to say this is a pretty underwhelming deal. Can't get excited about a loan signing who cant speak english (prob the only swede alive), and has zero experience of Premier League or a relegation scrap. Parish needs to sort out two first team regular perms (Keeper and Striker), this might be a nice bit of cover, tidy bit of business kind of deal, but without the two glaring holes in our First XI sorted, then it'll be a pretty pathetic window. Whether we survive or plummet through the relegation trapdoor will be determined by our signings in the 'Window'.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Jan 18 5.15pm

Originally posted by Happiness Stan

Whether we survive or plummet through the relegation trapdoor will be determined by our signings in the 'Window'.

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boo909 Figeac 22 Jan 18 5.18pm
Originally posted by PZ Eagle Too right, after all how many of us had heard of Luka when BS signed him? And it's not like he's going to cost us much in wages, doesn't take a squad place, we haven't really got much to lose in this deal. Bangell - If Camus wrote The Myth of Sisyphus today, it would be about Jason Puncheon eternally trying and failing to pass with his right foot.
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Figeac 22 Jan 18 5.18pm

Originally posted by PZ Eagle

Too right, after all how many of us had heard of Luka when BS signed him?

And it's not like he's going to cost us much in wages, doesn't take a squad place, we haven't really got much to lose in this deal.

Bangell - If Camus wrote The Myth of Sisyphus today, it would be about Jason Puncheon eternally trying and failing to pass with his right foot.

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spartakev2 Anerley 22 Jan 18 5.19pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 No they could be good enough, but really how do we know without a genuine policy of bringing young fit players through to challenge. The big problem with these expensive stars being sidelined for months if not years is that there is nobody pressurising for a start in their place. And they don't necessarily recover either. Firstly both have been on loan at lower division clubs and havent exactly excelled . Secondly roy sees them training most days, or gets reports from U23 manager, and if he felt they were good enough he wouldn't have sold/loaned them out. (Incidentally can't find the amount we sold keshi for, can you enlighten me). Thirdly we don't have the luxury of playing young players in the hope that after a run in the team they may do OK, if we were mid table might be different.
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Anerley 22 Jan 18 5.19pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

No they could be good enough, but really how do we know without a genuine policy of bringing young fit players through to challenge.

The big problem with these expensive stars being sidelined for months if not years is that there is nobody pressurising for a start in their place.

And they don't necessarily recover either.

Firstly both have been on loan at lower division clubs and havent exactly excelled .
Secondly roy sees them training most days, or gets reports from U23 manager, and if he felt they were good enough he wouldn't have sold/loaned them out. (Incidentally can't find the amount we sold keshi for, can you enlighten me).
Thirdly we don't have the luxury of playing young players in the hope that after a run in the team they may do OK, if we were mid table might be different.

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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 22 Jan 18 5.35pm
So we have brought in a guy who plays in midfield until May ... wow! All our rivals must be quaking in their boots? Denial is not just a river in Egypt
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