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Dan89 Se25 18 Sep 17 2.04pm
Originally posted by Part Time James Well I was guessing he was saying the amount of vitriol for a bad signing doesn't seem matched by the praise for a good one. To be fair I only just re-joined Twitter last week. I haven't seen any of this. I'm just telling you how I interpreted what he said, not whether it was true or not. Here's some of the fans tweet him after the news of Zaha signed his 5 year deal Attachment: IMG_0665.JPG (2,556.20Kb) Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football
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Se25 18 Sep 17 2.04pm

Originally posted by Part Time James

Well I was guessing he was saying the amount of vitriol for a bad signing doesn't seem matched by the praise for a good one. To be fair I only just re-joined Twitter last week. I haven't seen any of this. I'm just telling you how I interpreted what he said, not whether it was true or not.

Here's some of the fans tweet him after the news of Zaha signed his 5 year deal

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Hambo Crawley 18 Sep 17 2.07pm
I asked a similar question on the BBS - what do you want when you say "Grilling" ? What's your aim? What wasn't asked? ]the only suggestion I've really had so far was that I should have asked why certain players are getting picked;. I don't even have time to articulate a response to that level of f***wittery. I'm happy to hear if people can explain to me what it is they want to hear but more importantly what response they think it will get. Will it be a better, clearer, more informative response than what we got? Oh and confirm to me you actually listened to the whole thing before making an assumption on how the interview was conducted. Not saying people commenting haven't but...you know... If there's good feedback, we can incorporate it next time. HOL Radio Lead Presenter and sampler of processed meats HOL radio - Sunday nights [Link] HOL Radio Twitter: [Tweet Link] My Twitter: [Tweet Link]
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Crawley 18 Sep 17 2.07pm

I asked a similar question on the BBS - what do you want when you say "Grilling" ? What's your aim? What wasn't asked?
]the only suggestion I've really had so far was that I should have asked why certain players are getting picked;. I don't even have time to articulate a response to that level of f***wittery.

I'm happy to hear if people can explain to me what it is they want to hear but more importantly what response they think it will get. Will it be a better, clearer, more informative response than what we got?

Oh and confirm to me you actually listened to the whole thing before making an assumption on how the interview was conducted. Not saying people commenting haven't but...you know...

If there's good feedback, we can incorporate it next time.

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Dan89 Se25 18 Sep 17 2.13pm
Originally posted by Hambo I asked a similar question on the BBS - what do you want when you say "Grilling" ? What's your aim? What wasn't asked? ]the only suggestion I've really had so far was that I should have asked why certain players are getting picked;. I don't even have time to articulate a response to that level of f***wittery. I'm happy to hear if people can explain to me what it is they want to hear but more importantly what response they think it will get. Will it be a better, clearer, more informative response than what we got? Oh and confirm to me you actually listened to the whole thing before making an assumption on how the interview was conducted. Not saying people commenting haven't but...you know... If there's good feedback, we can incorporate it next time. There wasn't enough on the academy and further questions should of been asked, while is our scouting network so poor, and team like Southampton , stoke and wba find gems from abroad but we are unable, is a reastructure needed. Why isn't Gary issot job under threat, after nothing coming from the academy. Why doesn't the club announce transfer fee agreed on their official twitter and website like other sides like West Ham and Man Utd. Why does our club take a long time to complete a medical and transfer of a player. Why was the likes of lapado, mutch named in the 24 man squad, if they are not intended to be used. Edited by Dan89 (18 Sep 2017 2.15pm) Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football
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Se25 18 Sep 17 2.13pm

Originally posted by Hambo

Oh and confirm to me you actually listened to the whole thing before making an assumption on how the interview was conducted. Not saying people commenting haven't but...you know...

If there's good feedback, we can incorporate it next time.

There wasn't enough on the academy and further questions should of been asked, while is our scouting network so poor, and team like Southampton , stoke and wba find gems from abroad but we are unable, is a reastructure needed. Why isn't Gary issot job under threat, after nothing coming from the academy. Why doesn't the club announce transfer fee agreed on their official twitter and website like other sides like West Ham and Man Utd. Why does our club take a long time to complete a medical and transfer of a player. Why was the likes of lapado, mutch named in the 24 man squad, if they are not intended to be used.

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Bangell Oxford 18 Sep 17 2.16pm
Originally posted by Hambo I asked a similar question on the BBS - what do you want when you say "Grilling" ? What's your aim? What wasn't asked? ]the only suggestion I've really had so far was that I should have asked why certain players are getting picked;. I don't even have time to articulate a response to that level of f***wittery. I'm happy to hear if people can explain to me what it is they want to hear but more importantly what response they think it will get. Will it be a better, clearer, more informative response than what we got? Oh and confirm to me you actually listened to the whole thing before making an assumption on how the interview was conducted. Not saying people commenting haven't but...you know... If there's good feedback, we can incorporate it next time. Not a fan of HOL Radio, and I think the interviews with Parish are usually a bit sycophantic, but you did a good job on this one and asked the relevant questions in a direct manner.
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Oxford 18 Sep 17 2.16pm

Originally posted by Hambo

Oh and confirm to me you actually listened to the whole thing before making an assumption on how the interview was conducted. Not saying people commenting haven't but...you know...

If there's good feedback, we can incorporate it next time.

Not a fan of HOL Radio, and I think the interviews with Parish are usually a bit sycophantic, but you did a good job on this one and asked the relevant questions in a direct manner.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 18 Sep 17 2.17pm
Hambo, I think maybe rather than asking a question and just Parish answering it over 5 minutes, and some of it was waffling and contradicting himself, understandable with the pressure he must be under and feeling, perhaps you or jel or someone may ask him during or at the end of the answer, how or why he ...... (got it wrong if that's the case), and how he'd do it differently next time. Ordinarily you could say this is unnecessary but recently Parish is repeating errors. Btw, I think it'd be a big mistake if he wasn't the head man or one of them but my opinion is different over football matters. COYP
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Caterham 18 Sep 17 2.17pm

Hambo, I think maybe rather than asking a question and just Parish answering it over 5 minutes, and some of it was waffling and contradicting himself, understandable with the pressure he must be under and feeling, perhaps you or jel or someone may ask him during or at the end of the answer, how or why he ...... (got it wrong if that's the case), and how he'd do it differently next time. Ordinarily you could say this is unnecessary but recently Parish is repeating errors.

Btw, I think it'd be a big mistake if he wasn't the head man or one of them but my opinion is different over football matters.

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Hambo Crawley 18 Sep 17 2.24pm
Originally posted by Dan89 There wasn't enough on the academy and further questions should of been asked, while is our scouting network so poor, and team like Southampton , stoke and wba find gems from abroad but we are unable, is a reastructure needed. Why isn't Gary issot job under threat, after nothing coming from the academy. Why doesn't the club announce transfer fee agreed on their official twitter and website like other sides like West Ham and Man Utd. First of all, there is a finite amount of time and I have to manage the topics we cover. To illustrate wh at I mean, we abandoned our 7pm pre-record after spending 45mins talking about ffp. Have we got no "gems" from abroad? I think SP addressed this and rightly pointed out that as palace fans, in general we will notice the successes at other clubs and not the failures. He mentioned Lamine of Southampton and make the point that we have signed Luka and Riedwald in that position. What else did you want? On the academy he has updated us on the training facilities and advised that the very recent appointment of DF is to address the failures to properly manage that academy. Then he pointed out the differences in managing it now vs in the past. What more did you want? Should I have told him off for neglecting it? I am not saying we couldn't have gone into detail but I think to satisfy some predispositions we would need 16 hours and some we would never satisfy. One thing no interviewer, professional or amateur, would do is attempt to start an argument to appease irate people. We have a responsibility to ask questions but also to allow a message to be communicated. We don't need to chase hyperbole or sensationalism content like talksport I think we get a lot more actual information because of that. Not seen one argument that has give any way to changing that view but I'm open to it. Edited by Hambo (18 Sep 2017 2.26pm) HOL Radio Lead Presenter and sampler of processed meats HOL radio - Sunday nights [Link] HOL Radio Twitter: [Tweet Link] My Twitter: [Tweet Link]
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Crawley 18 Sep 17 2.24pm

Originally posted by Dan89

First of all, there is a finite amount of time and I have to manage the topics we cover. To illustrate wh at I mean, we abandoned our 7pm pre-record after spending 45mins talking about ffp.

Have we got no "gems" from abroad? I think SP addressed this and rightly pointed out that as palace fans, in general we will notice the successes at other clubs and not the failures. He mentioned Lamine of Southampton and make the point that we have signed Luka and Riedwald in that position. What else did you want?

On the academy he has updated us on the training facilities and advised that the very recent appointment of DF is to address the failures to properly manage that academy. Then he pointed out the differences in managing it now vs in the past. What more did you want? Should I have told him off for neglecting it?

I am not saying we couldn't have gone into detail but I think to satisfy some predispositions we would need 16 hours and some we would never satisfy.

One thing no interviewer, professional or amateur, would do is attempt to start an argument to appease irate people. We have a responsibility to ask questions but also to allow a message to be communicated.

We don't need to chase hyperbole or sensationalism content like talksport I think we get a lot more actual information because of that. Not seen one argument that has give any way to changing that view but I'm open to it.

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Lyons550 Shirley 18 Sep 17 2.27pm
Originally posted by Mstrobez I find it hilarious that Parish literally said in the same sentence that fans need to be more constructive and come up with solutions rather than just whingeing, then about 12 seconds later saying fans who say "I'd do this and that differently" are unhelpful. WTF? I think Parish needs to realise just as much as he claims "not all fans are against him, it's only about 50% who are unhappy", similarly not all fans who are now questioning his leadership are doing it regressively & blindly based on some longstanding agenda. There are many people who are genuinely concerned by the decisions and mistakes we keep making, and I've seen plenty of ideas of how things could've been done in a better way. It's been a culmination of f*** ups over a sustained period of time & decisions that can't rationally be understood that have led many to have serious questions of the leadership at the club. We're not all just abusive, defeatist idiots. Quite the opposite a lot of the time in fact. Edited by Mstrobez (17 Sep 2017 10.19pm) I listened to half of it running into work this morning...he did appear to be more than a little duplicitous in his answers, which only made me feel like he was telling us what he thinks we wanted to hear. Also a sidenote for Chris (Hambo)...good work with the questions bud but you may wish to re-visit your stock response to everything SP answered with "Fair point (or) That's a fair point" in almost every instance...just an observation...nothing more old bean On the whole, as usual, the show was excellent....oh and thanks for extending it to last for the entirety of my run...I'll buy you a beer for that The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 18 Sep 17 2.27pm

Originally posted by Mstrobez

I find it hilarious that Parish literally said in the same sentence that fans need to be more constructive and come up with solutions rather than just whingeing, then about 12 seconds later saying fans who say "I'd do this and that differently" are unhelpful. WTF?

I think Parish needs to realise just as much as he claims "not all fans are against him, it's only about 50% who are unhappy", similarly not all fans who are now questioning his leadership are doing it regressively & blindly based on some longstanding agenda. There are many people who are genuinely concerned by the decisions and mistakes we keep making, and I've seen plenty of ideas of how things could've been done in a better way.

It's been a culmination of f*** ups over a sustained period of time & decisions that can't rationally be understood that have led many to have serious questions of the leadership at the club. We're not all just abusive, defeatist idiots. Quite the opposite a lot of the time in fact.

Edited by Mstrobez (17 Sep 2017 10.19pm)

I listened to half of it running into work this morning...he did appear to be more than a little duplicitous in his answers, which only made me feel like he was telling us what he thinks we wanted to hear.

Also a sidenote for Chris (Hambo)...good work with the questions bud but you may wish to re-visit your stock response to everything SP answered with "Fair point (or) That's a fair point" in almost every instance...just an observation...nothing more old bean

On the whole, as usual, the show was excellent....oh and thanks for extending it to last for the entirety of my run...I'll buy you a beer for that

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Hambo Crawley 18 Sep 17 2.28pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Hambo, I think maybe rather than asking a question and just Parish answering it over 5 minutes, and some of it was waffling and contradicting himself, understandable with the pressure he must be under and feeling, perhaps you or jel or someone may ask him during or at the end of the answer, how or why he ...... (got it wrong if that's the case), and how he'd do it differently next time. Ordinarily you could say this is unnecessary but recently Parish is repeating errors. Btw, I think it'd be a big mistake if he wasn't the head man or one of them but my opinion is different over football matters. To be fair to you, I did have to drop a couple of such follow ups due to time constraints - but I do feel that the information is there in the responses we got. Particularly the references to hindsight. HOL Radio Lead Presenter and sampler of processed meats HOL radio - Sunday nights [Link] HOL Radio Twitter: [Tweet Link] My Twitter: [Tweet Link]
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Crawley 18 Sep 17 2.28pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Btw, I think it'd be a big mistake if he wasn't the head man or one of them but my opinion is different over football matters.

To be fair to you, I did have to drop a couple of such follow ups due to time constraints - but I do feel that the information is there in the responses we got. Particularly the references to hindsight.

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Part Time James 18 Sep 17 2.28pm
Originally posted by Dan89 Here's some of the fans tweet him after the news of Zaha signed his 5 year deal I'm worried you think I was having a go at you because you're not letting it drop. I was just suggesting there was a semantic difference in what you thought he said and what I thought he said. Apologies if you've taken that personally, it wasn't intended in that way and if I am being fair to you, you probably have proved me/him wrong on that, to an extent, whichever way a person interprets what he said. I'm not sure if it's to the extent you think it is though. The screenshot you sent had a few people celebrating the news and a couple of people (I think I counted 3 actually) specifically praising him for the news.
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Originally posted by Dan89

Here's some of the fans tweet him after the news of Zaha signed his 5 year deal

I'm worried you think I was having a go at you because you're not letting it drop. I was just suggesting there was a semantic difference in what you thought he said and what I thought he said. Apologies if you've taken that personally, it wasn't intended in that way and if I am being fair to you, you probably have proved me/him wrong on that, to an extent, whichever way a person interprets what he said. I'm not sure if it's to the extent you think it is though. The screenshot you sent had a few people celebrating the news and a couple of people (I think I counted 3 actually) specifically praising him for the news.

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Hambo Crawley 18 Sep 17 2.29pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 I listened to half of it running into work this morning...he did appear to be more than a little duplicitous in his answers, which only made me feel like he was telling us what he thinks we wanted to hear. Also a sidenote for Chris (Hambo)...good work with the questions bud but you may wish to re-visit your stock response to everything SP answered with "Fair point (or) That's a fair point" in almost every instance...just an observation...nothing more old bean On the whole, as usual, the show was excellent....oh and thanks for extending it to last for the entirety of my run...I'll buy you a beer for that The fair point stuff is a verbal tick when I made a decision between commenting and moving on. I'll say it in my head next time! HOL Radio Lead Presenter and sampler of processed meats HOL radio - Sunday nights [Link] HOL Radio Twitter: [Tweet Link] My Twitter: [Tweet Link]
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Crawley 18 Sep 17 2.29pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

On the whole, as usual, the show was excellent....oh and thanks for extending it to last for the entirety of my run...I'll buy you a beer for that

The fair point stuff is a verbal tick when I made a decision between commenting and moving on. I'll say it in my head next time!

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Hambo Crawley 18 Sep 17 2.29pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 I listened to half of it running into work this morning...he did appear to be more than a little duplicitous in his answers, which only made me feel like he was telling us what he thinks we wanted to hear. Also a sidenote for Chris (Hambo)...good work with the questions bud but you may wish to re-visit your stock response to everything SP answered with "Fair point (or) That's a fair point" in almost every instance...just an observation...nothing more old bean On the whole, as usual, the show was excellent....oh and thanks for extending it to last for the entirety of my run...I'll buy you a beer for that 'A' beer??? HOL Radio Lead Presenter and sampler of processed meats HOL radio - Sunday nights [Link] HOL Radio Twitter: [Tweet Link] My Twitter: [Tweet Link]
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Crawley 18 Sep 17 2.29pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

On the whole, as usual, the show was excellent....oh and thanks for extending it to last for the entirety of my run...I'll buy you a beer for that

'A' beer???

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Lyons550 Shirley 18 Sep 17 2.30pm
Originally posted by Pikester Thanks chaps and quite a coup getting Steve on. I'll have a proper listen tomorrow but the bits I've heard so far make me feel a little more warm and fuzzy.... and that's just Jel's soothing tones. Who's that Patrick fellow? I thought it was Henning Wehn to start with! Its hard to tell them apart when they stand side by side...Patrick has the better smile. The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 18 Sep 17 2.30pm

Originally posted by Pikester

Thanks chaps and quite a coup getting Steve on. I'll have a proper listen tomorrow but the bits I've heard so far make me feel a little more warm and fuzzy.... and that's just Jel's soothing tones.

Who's that Patrick fellow? I thought it was Henning Wehn to start with!

Its hard to tell them apart when they stand side by side...Patrick has the better smile.

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