Yeah it's a good point....the body adapts to be more efficient.....but what a miserable way to live long term....hungry and a bit cold.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

If that's your bag then I commend you.....I couldn't be a vegan myself as I like my dairy stuff....but there's a certain ethical element to veggies.

The human body is certainly adapted to eat meat along with the rest of it....but what can be said is that a lot of animal farming is questionable ethically....and sometimes completely terrible no questions at all....I've seen videos showing male chicks being sent into the mincers shortly after birth....I don't sign up for that...no chicken nuggets for me.

I do look forward to the day when gene science provides us with quality commercial meat that doesn't involve the butchering of animals. That day is nearly here anyway.

Then they will exist in zoos.....also questionable ethically...but less so.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2017 9.45pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Just another reason to dislike the terrorist sympathising skinny streak of apologist piss.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

I think the argument for eating meat is certainly there. It is a simple expression of nature. You don't feed cats vegetables because cats are designed by nature to eat meat. Humans were designed to eat meat along with most edible things within our natural environment.

Nature cares nothing for any expression of equality or indeed fairness.

However the argument that we aren't bound to nature is a powerful one. We subvert nature all the time with drugs and medicine that increases our life span far further than nature would given a natural run of events. So I'm not against this idea either.

I think on this I've come to the conclusion that animal farming....like many forms of work...will fall to the advancement of automation. Eventually, like mobile phones this will spread to most industrialized countries.

Before this becomes the norm we will already have 'grown' meat that will be more healthy while tasting exactly the same. From looking into this we are not that far from the mass production stage on that already. I hope this succeeds.....Well, I'm sure it will succeed eventually anyway...price always wins.

There is, of course, a downside to this in terms of jobs. The much larger question of the effects of the advancement of automation on our societies is one that is yet to be answered.

Soon all this dividing society into strivers and deadbeats will become far harder to justify.

So in the future most of us will still be eating meat....but it just won't involve animal farming.

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Sep 2017 12.17pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

If that is a Led Zeppelin link thanks for the warning.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Genuinely can't see why a politician's dietary preferences should be anyone's business but their own?

I'm no more interested in his veganism than I am in whether he likes or hates Marmite, or can't handle a hot curry, or for some reason likes a donner kebab. Unless he's going to start eating babies, then I make take an interest