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The Dolphin 28 Aug 17 7.21am | |
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I am not an advocate of sacking a Manager so early into the season but it might be that it has to happen. Edited by The Dolphin (28 Aug 2017 7.22am)
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The Dolphin 28 Aug 17 7.29am | |
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Originally posted by Dan89
Get David Wagner in. Pay what it takes the guy on an upward curve and deserves a chance at a bigger club than Huddersfield. And why would he want to come to us right now when Huddersfield are everything we are not.
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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 28 Aug 17 7.37am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
It's fair. Looks like he's fvcked up extending Pardew and Frank without any kind of business strategy which should be but is forgotten or unaware of: Where are we now? Where do we want to be? How are we going to get there? BASIC FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES OF MARKETING MANAGEMENT. Come on Steve, marketing is more than production of advertising. The recent shambles lacks a coherent strategy and any synergy. Come on marketing man. You are trying to aliken elite sports management to the principles of marketing? If you're going to start quoting crap from text books at least pick a relevant one
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Aug 17 9.10am | |
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Originally posted by Frickin Saweet
You are trying to aliken elite sports management to the principles of marketing? If you're going to start quoting crap from text books at least pick a relevant one Well that shows you haven't a clue because he's decided on a goal/target with no plan or idea of how to get there. See my point? Oh and there's also 'Where have we been'? Pardew, a gradual decline, his sacking, 'winding the clock back....' And now a repeat of it. Loads of businesses fail because that plan of where they want to be and how they're going to get there gets forgotten or ignored, and parish is from a bl33ding marketing background, although it's actually marketing production more than strategy. There is no joined up thinking or synergy in the club's strategy right now, call it what you want, and it's showing badly, losing to 2 relegation battlers at home, 3-0 and 2-0. Edited by Rudi Hedman (28 Aug 2017 9.13am)
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Petereagle Brockley 28 Aug 17 9.37am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Well that shows you haven't a clue because he's decided on a goal/target with no plan or idea of how to get there. See my point? Oh and there's also 'Where have we been'? Pardew, a gradual decline, his sacking, 'winding the clock back....' And now a repeat of it. Loads of businesses fail because that plan of where they want to be and how they're going to get there gets forgotten or ignored, and parish is from a bl33ding marketing background, although it's actually marketing production more than strategy. There is no joined up thinking or synergy in the club's strategy right now, call it what you want, and it's showing badly, losing to 2 relegation battlers at home, 3-0 and 2-0. Edited by Rudi Hedman (28 Aug 2017 9.13am) I think its arguable that Parish himself had a failure of nerve and went for a manager in FdB who would emphasise possession based football rather than choose a more tradtional (for Palace) strong at the back/counterattacking style manager like Dyche. Nothing wrong with this tradionalmstyle if you bring in better players to implement it better. Meanwhile SP is 'set for talks' with FdB. Does he stick with FdB or sack him now? This summarises the dilemma. Personally I would go for the sack, have Freedman in as care taker, and most crucially, buy Sakho to restore leadership on the field
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Painter Croydon 28 Aug 17 9.38am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Well that shows you haven't a clue because he's decided on a goal/target with no plan or idea of how to get there. See my point? Oh and there's also 'Where have we been'? Pardew, a gradual decline, his sacking, 'winding the clock back....' And now a repeat of it. Loads of businesses fail because that plan of where they want to be and how they're going to get there gets forgotten or ignored, and parish is from a bl33ding marketing background, although it's actually marketing production more than strategy. There is no joined up thinking or synergy in the club's strategy right now, call it what you want, and it's showing badly, losing to 2 relegation battlers at home, 3-0 and 2-0. Edited by Rudi Hedman (28 Aug 2017 9.13am) Your post is all based on supposition, you have no idea of the strategy that is being implemented at the club.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Aug 17 9.47am | |
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Originally posted by Petereagle
I think its arguable that Parish himself had a failure of nerve and went for a manager in FdB who would emphasise possession based football rather than choose a more tradtional (for Palace) strong at the back/counterattacking style manager like Dyche. Nothing wrong with this tradionalmstyle if you bring in better players to implement it better. Meanwhile SP is 'set for talks' with FdB. Does he stick with FdB or sack him now? This summarises the dilemma. Personally I would go for the sack, have Freedman in as care taker, and most crucially, buy Sakho to restore leadership on the field There definitely needs to be a plan of action, rather than a dither and carry on with more small decision to decision with no joined up thinking. Frank has been unlucky losing Zaha and Cheek, he has adapted from 3-4-3 which is suicide for us to 3-5-whatever, but what really takes him closer to the door is ward at RWB and even PVA at LWB. And puncheon playing but not Cabaye. This is a monumental f*** up some of us could see coming as soon as we heard '3-4-3' a few months ago. Blinded by a big name and a lot of memory loss. 'Manager with prem experience' What a mess, and a few days of the window left to design a coherent strategy.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Aug 17 9.49am | |
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Originally posted by Painter
Your post is all based on supposition, you have no idea of the strategy that is being implemented at the club. Well if Frank was first choice it's either an incompetent decision to hire him or not back him, or establish how he'd implement changes, not change them even more than Pardew.
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Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 28 Aug 17 9.52am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
There definitely needs to be a plan of action, rather than a dither and carry on with more small decision to decision with no joined up thinking. Frank has been unlucky losing Zaha and Cheek, he has adapted from 3-4-3 which is suicide for us to 3-5-whatever, but what really takes him closer to the door is ward at RWB and even PVA at LWB. And puncheon playing but not Cabaye. This is a monumental f*** up some of us could see coming as soon as we heard '3-4-3' a few months ago. Blinded by a big name and a lot of memory loss. 'Manager with prem experience' What a mess, and a few days of the window left to design a coherent strategy.
If he really needs to keep Ward happy he should play him in a back four where he knows what he's doing.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Aug 17 10.18am | |
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
If he really needs to keep Ward happy he should play him in a back four where he knows what he's doing. I doubt that. More like determined to play his formation regardless and try and find the players to select after deciding on formation.
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Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 28 Aug 17 10.24am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I doubt that. More like determined to play his formation regardless and try and find the players to select after deciding on formation. Meanwhile 6 points have been handed to relegation rivals - in August.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Aug 17 10.26am | |
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
Meanwhile 6 points have been handed to relegation rivals - in August. 'Results over style'
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