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 davenotamonkey  17 Aug 17 1.10am |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
Come in, Washington: your time is up! (As indeed predicted by Trump yesterday). Nothing will escape the purge, comrades. You think you're black enough to escape the cleansing? Think again, you "white-passing BIPOC": This intersectionalist bull5hit is literally a cancer on our society, but the "alt-right" are certainly not the chemo (perhaps more an AIDS alternative). ....aaaand now: street names What/who will they target after they "erase" the Confederates? My money's on books and films.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Aug 17 5.38am |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
Yeah... meanwhile, in an entirely unrelated event: [Tweet Link]
Just look at the peaceful left. I'm sure they'll be right along to the Lenin statue in Seattle to give it the same treatment, right? Martin Luther King had some extremely dubious views about homosexuality that would make the right-on brigade cringe on here. I don't give a 5hit about historical relativism now, because those calling for "pull down the statues" don't either. So. We taking down all the MLK statues as well? Hmm? This is the thin edge of the wedge. The shutting down of speech, the burning buildings, the utter intolerance towards other views (on both sides of the divide). Happy birthday Soros, you got your wish. Yeah look at them and their criminal damage so on a par with driving a car into a crowd of protesters and other acts of terrorism coomitted by neonazis and white 'nationalists'. I don't agree with them but stop trying to equate the two. They aren't the same thing.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Aug 17 5.45am |
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Originally posted by johnno42000
Of course they were traitors, they rebelled against the King who ruled the colony. That makes them treacherous scoundrels who, if we had won, would rightly have been executed as traitors. Except they won and in doing so forged the US. Washington and Jefferson don't have statues because they were slave owners, or defended slavery or even have an association with it. Its because of their contribution to the US as a nation. Its very origin and being founding fathers. Where as Robert e Lee and the Confederacy achieved what?
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Aug 17 5.48am |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
Come in, Washington: your time is up! (As indeed predicted by Trump yesterday). Nothing will escape the purge, comrades. You think you're black enough to escape the cleansing? Think again, you "white-passing BIPOC": This intersectionalist bull5hit is literally a cancer on our society, but the "alt-right" are certainly not the chemo (perhaps more an AIDS alternative). One bloke on facebook and a blog is hardly even the start of the purge or big brother. Or a movement as a whole.
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johnno42000  17 Aug 17 5.49am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Except they won and in doing so forged the US. Washington and Jefferson don't have statues because they were slave owners, or defended slavery or even have an association with it. Its because of their contribution to the US as a nation. Its very origin and being founding fathers. Where as Robert e Lee and the Confederacy achieved what? What's that got to do with them being slave owning traitors? Topple them statues.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 17 Aug 17 9.52am |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
....aaaand now: street names What/who will they target after they "erase" the Confederates? My money's on books and films. Let's hope that most people see what is really happening here.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Aug 17 10.26am |
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Cannonball  High in the Ozarks. 17 Aug 17 12.32pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
You don't want the danger of airbrushing history though. The statue also serves as a reminder that Lee was on the losing side and his vile racist ideology defeated. Out of interest, is it going to be replaced with a statue of Trump. Or Miley Cyrus. Most of the men fighting for the confederacy were dirt farmers who didn't own slaves,they fought because their country was invaded by the union forces...and Lincolns proclaimation was only to free the slaves in the south-many northerners still kept them..and the civil war sure helped the slaves didn't it ? it took another hundred years for them to get equality.
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| Stirlingsays 17 Aug 17 12.53pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Except they won and in doing so forged the US. Washington and Jefferson don't have statues because they were slave owners, or defended slavery or even have an association with it. Its because of their contribution to the US as a nation. Its very origin and being founding fathers. Where as Robert e Lee and the Confederacy achieved what? Progressivism starts with the low hanging fruit, but given successes they will no doubt move onto Washington and Jefferson.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Aug 17 1.14pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Progressivism starts with the low hanging fruit, but given successes they will no doubt move onto Washington and Jefferson. I don't doubt some will, but if they achieve that democratically, though due process, within the law, then I don't think its really a problem. Washington has a statue because he's a founding father and the first president of the US. Jefferson for writing the US constitution. Difference is the kind of people who turn up to protest for Washington and Jefferson won't be neo-nazis and 'white nationalists'. And almost certainly, if they tried to do that for Washington and Jefferson, they federal government would step in (or the supreme court).
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Aug 17 1.17pm |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
....aaaand now: street names What/who will they target after they "erase" the Confederates? My money's on books and films. Protected under the first (and other) amendments, even Birth of a Nation is protected. Your hyperbole has weakness.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Aug 17 1.17pm |
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Originally posted by Cannonball
Most of the men fighting for the confederacy were dirt farmers who didn't own slaves,they fought because their country was invaded by the union forces...and Lincolns proclaimation was only to free the slaves in the south-many northerners still kept them..and the civil war sure helped the slaves didn't it ? it took another hundred years for them to get equality. They weren't slaves anymore. And why in the south did they struggle to get equality...
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