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serial thriller The Promised Land 11 Aug 17 2.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Trump is not mentally unstable. He is also not a psychopath. These are just the usual critic responses to Trump. They are hyperbolic assessments of him. He isn't probably someone you would like a pint with. He's lies, threatens, s*** talks and exaggerates....though to be fair plenty of his opponent's lie and exaggerate as well...it's hardly new on the political cesspool...but Trump's lies are more obvious and bigly. Like many long term rich people, he's existed in his bubble for so long that he's lost touch with reality....Reality for Trump is Fox News and the emails and arse kissing he gets. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Aug 2017 2.24pm) I'm not denying that there are many other psychopaths in positions of authority. I think politics lends itself to these people, who have a mental deficiency in empathy, in a job which is both public, amoral and macchiavellian. For a long time I wasn't concerned by Trump as I honestly thought he was no worse than many of his predecessors. But then you watch a man getting up in front of boy scouts and makes them listen to the lies, bullsh*t and meandering nonsense that continually spews out of his mouth...he is mentally unstable.
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Stirlingsays 11 Aug 17 2.57pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
I'm not denying that there are many other psychopaths in positions of authority. I think politics lends itself to these people, who have a mental deficiency in empathy, in a job which is both public, amoral and macchiavellian. For a long time I wasn't concerned by Trump as I honestly thought he was no worse than many of his predecessors. But then you watch a man getting up in front of boy scouts and makes them listen to the lies, bullsh*t and meandering nonsense that continually spews out of his mouth...he is mentally unstable. I think compared to the idea of....a president being a top notch brain...not that this guarantees good long term decisions...but in terms of top talent I think it's fair to complain about Trump. I was amused by that observation of him by Marco Rubio (who is a Republican with a good brain) he said, 'Here’s the guy that inherited $200 million. If he hadn’t inherited $200 million, you know where Donald Trump would be right now? Selling watches in Manhattan.' But really how impressive the president is isn't as important as the team that he assembles around him.
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Kermit8 Hevon 11 Aug 17 3.25pm | |
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We are in the one false flag arena now for it all to kick off. There are something like 35,000 U.S troops stationed in South Korea. If N Korea believes it is under attack and launches its missiles already directed at them then it is goodbye Pyongyang. The regime has always had a suicide cultish aura to it so maybe fate decrees that it will end with a blinding flash. As long as China and Russia don't get dragged into it..then we are all fvcked.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 11 Aug 17 3.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Trump is not mentally unstable. He is also not a psychopath. These are just the usual critic responses to Trump. They are hyperbolic assessments of him. Pretty much, he's neither of those, unless diagnosed by a professional psychiatrist following clinical assessment. He's a privillaged, egotist who is narcissistic, and seems to be easily bored and distracted, and completely out of his depth - But there isn't, at face value, anything seriously mentally wrong about him. From what I've heard he does seem to have anger management issues and seems to be a bit too thin skinned for politics - but that's not an illness or sign of mental illness. I wouldn't be surprised if he did have some kind of organic disorder related to age, but its unfair and cruel to speculate on someone's mental health (both to them and other people who suffer). The biggest concern for republicans - is just how poorly he can control the white house staff and his own people - That building is leaking like a broken sieve. Originally posted by Stirlingsays
He isn't probably someone you would like a pint with. He's lies, threatens, s*** talks and exaggerates....though to be fair plenty of his opponent's lie and exaggerate as well...it's hardly new on the political cesspool...but Trump's lies are more obvious and bigly. I don't think I'd want a leader I could 'have a pint with'. I think the problem Trump is that he's s**t at lying, terrible at obfuscation and never really had to learn how to do it properly - Nor is he used to the kind of critical attention to his every word. When he was Trump the business man, no one called him on what he said because no one really gave a s**t. When your POTUS every word you utter is analysed to the nth degree. He's probably the most 'open' President ever - which isn't a good thing. Most politicians guard their public words very carefully. Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Like many long term rich people, he's existed in his bubble for so long that he's lost touch with reality....Reality for Trump is Fox News and the emails and arse kissing he gets. Bingo - He's massively out of his depth, and either his advisors are failing him, or he's not listening to them (in which case he's stupid). He doesn't help himself though by completely contradicting himself and his election pledges - Like on Healthcare.
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gambler Kent 11 Aug 17 3.44pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Bingo - He's massively out of his depth, and either his advisors are failing him, or he's not listening to them (in which case he's stupid). He doesn't help himself though by completely contradicting himself and his election pledges - Like on Healthcare. And he'd try it on with your wife.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 11 Aug 17 3.46pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
We are in the one false flag arena now for it all to kick off. There are something like 35,000 U.S troops stationed in South Korea. If N Korea believes it is under attack and launches its missiles already directed at them then it is goodbye Pyongyang. The regime has always had a suicide cultish aura to it so maybe fate decrees that it will end with a blinding flash. As long as China and Russia don't get dragged into it..then we are all fvcked. I suspect that they've got a nice deep bunker and emp shielded communications for their military command and leader. The US can't respond with the right kind of nuke for taking out bunkers, because it would throw up huge amounts of radioactive dust - in a tiny country - that's going to affect Japan, China and South Korea. I'd imagine we'd not be too happy if someone nuked Ireland, no matter how much they asked for it - due to proximity.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 11 Aug 17 3.48pm | |
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Originally posted by gambler
And he'd try it on with your wife. Well so would most leaders, its a power thing. I bet the only thing stopping Rooservelt from impregnating the interns was the speed of his chair.
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wordup 11 Aug 17 4.20pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
This counted as a big plus for him in the election when compared to career politicians. Many confuse Trump's shoot from the hip openness with a form of authenticity though, when he' anything but authentic or honest. Clinton was a dodgy option too, but it's sad that people imagined Trump would be looking out for the common man, I mean the guy lives in a $100,000,000 golden penthouse. Sanders at least walked the walk with the life he'd led and doesn't appear to be centered on personal enrichment beyond all else.
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Stirlingsays 11 Aug 17 4.37pm | |
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Originally posted by wordup
This counted as a big plus for him in the election when compared to career politicians. Many confuse Trump's shoot from the hip openness with a form of authenticity though, when he' anything but authentic or honest. Clinton was a dodgy option too, but it's sad that people imagined Trump would be looking out for the common man, I mean the guy lives in a 0,000,000 golden penthouse. Sanders at least walked the walk with the life he'd led and doesn't appear to be centered on personal enrichment beyond all else. I doubt Trump gets...or even wants a second term but I think he'll leave a lasting effect on the next load of candidates for both parties. Trump's a nationalist....I think he does care in his way...in terms of the population as a whole....But individually he'd run over you to get to his wig.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 11 Aug 17 4.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I doubt Trump gets...or even wants a second term but I think he'll leave a lasting effect on the next load of candidates for both parties. Trump's a nationalist....I think he does care in his way...in terms of the population as a whole....But individually he'd run over you to get to his wig. For me, he represents everything that's wrong with nationalism, because the end focus is a nationalism that's about shallow values veiling the exploitation and interests of wealthy corporate America - and not the interests of Americans as a whole. Take health care, a real nationalist would want health care for their people, not the best interest of medical insurance companies. The same with Defence - its not about the protection and security of the American people, its about funnelling money into the defence industry (not the service men, or the people they protect). For me, a real nationalist, has to have at the heart of their belief, the people not their own interests. Its too easy to say 'America First' when its really about Multinationals capacity for profit and exploitation of the people. It used to be that Republican Nationalists were the driving force behind the massive infrastructure projects that made America and really improving the lives of real Americas (providing schools, work, interstate road infrastructure, public building projects etc). Its weird when you look at the US historically, that most of the big spending projects through the 50-70s were by Republicans. Republicans used to stand for something real and visceral in the US population - Now its about Corporate profits and earning from lobbyists.
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Stirlingsays 11 Aug 17 5.20pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
For me, he represents everything that's wrong with nationalism, because the end focus is a nationalism that's about shallow values veiling the exploitation and interests of wealthy corporate America - and not the interests of Americans as a whole. Take health care, a real nationalist would want health care for their people, not the best interest of medical insurance companies. The same with Defence - its not about the protection and security of the American people, its about funnelling money into the defence industry (not the service men, or the people they protect). For me, a real nationalist, has to have at the heart of their belief, the people not their own interests. Its too easy to say 'America First' when its really about Multinationals capacity for profit and exploitation of the people. It used to be that Republican Nationalists were the driving force behind the massive infrastructure projects that made America and really improving the lives of real Americas (providing schools, work, interstate road infrastructure, public building projects etc). Its weird when you look at the US historically, that most of the big spending projects through the 50-70s were by Republicans. Republicans used to stand for something real and visceral in the US population - Now its about Corporate profits and earning from lobbyists. I can't say I'm with the republicans on many policies outside of defence and security and not supporting 'progressivism'....still, I'll wait and see how Trump's economic nationalism actually plays out. If nothing else it's probably going to be better trade deal for us with him there.....If he's still there when negotiations start. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Aug 2017 5.20pm)
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wordup 11 Aug 17 5.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I doubt Trump gets...or even wants a second term but I think he'll leave a lasting effect on the next load of candidates for both parties. Trump's a nationalist....I think he does care in his way...in terms of the population as a whole....But individually he'd run over you to get to his wig. Yes I can't see a second Term for him. He'll possibly be forced out, or will opt out, before the end of his first. I'm sure he's coming to view his role as an inconvenience rather than an opportunity. He's making moves on the TV news network front. Fox News is flagging and there's a good opportunity for him to use this vehicle during his presidency then take tens of millions of dire hards with him when he eventually jumps ship.
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