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 Midlands Eagle  05 Jul 17 8.07am |
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Originally posted by Dan89
This deal will be dragged out to deadline day. Buckle in for the ride and the 400+ pages on hol. Too much of a risk as if we can't do a deal on deadline day then we are stuffed as we won't have enough time to source a replacement, especially as all the likely replacements will have probably been snapped up by then
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| Dan89 Se25 05 Jul 17 8.17am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Too much of a risk as if we can't do a deal on deadline day then we are stuffed as we won't have enough time to source a replacement, especially as all the likely replacements will have probably been snapped up by then I just look to the Benteke deal. Where we had agreed personal terms with Benteke before finally agreeing a fee. There was the drama with knee problems and a Palace bid that depending us getting in the champions league. If Sakho does come to SE25, I just feel he won't be in situ to face Huddersfield. If was a betting man the deal will be done just after we playing on the 19th August.
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| bexleydave Barnehurst 05 Jul 17 8.17am |
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Originally posted by Dan89
This idea that we poor is an illusion. 100+m a year just for staying in the prem. It's been well documented that we want to cut back on spending. It doesn't mean we don't have any funds. It could be the case we accessed all the other options and while they're maybe cheaper alternative, that vital premier league experience and leadership qualities that Sakho posses makes him a better package. We definitely know Sakho better than our current defenders. Who's to say that if we signed veltman for instance that he's any better Scott dann or Tomkins. In the last year that accounts are available for (2015/16) we made a post tax loss. In the last Summer and January transfer windows we made a net spend of over £70m. We have a £55m wage bill. Unless the owners suddenly turn into a bunch of Tony Bloom's and start chucking in mountains of extra cash, I'd say our options are limited. Unless we sell a prized asset, Bolasie-style, who would then have to be replaced as well.
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| Dan89 Se25 05 Jul 17 8.23am |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
In the last year that accounts are available for (2015/16) we made a post tax loss. In the last Summer and January transfer windows we made a net spend of over £70m. We have a £55m wage bill. Unless the owners suddenly turn into a bunch of Tony Bloom's and start chucking in mountains of extra cash, I'd say our options are limited. Unless we sell a prized asset, Bolasie-style, who would then have to be replaced as well. I not savy on the figures but one thing I know is that Sakho the best centre back, I've seen in a Palace shirt. This FFP doesn't affect many other sides and personally don't think frank de Boer would of accepted the job if the budget was only 30m. While it was clever to get 2 left backs because PVA injury last season, to spend 28m on left backs was not great business sense in hindsight.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 05 Jul 17 9.01am |
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Originally posted by Dan89
I not savy on the figures but one thing I know is that Sakho the best centre back, I've seen in a Palace shirt. This FFP doesn't affect many other sides and personally don't think frank de Boer would of accepted the job if the budget was only 30m. While it was clever to get 2 left backs because PVA injury last season, to spend 28m on left backs was not great business sense in hindsight. You're not savvy on figures. No sh1t. And those 2 left backs can cover left mid. Zaha and Townsend can play right mid. What do you not understand about spending more than you earn means you lose money, on top of money you've already lost? And you're conveniently ignoring we sold Bolasie and Gayle to sign Benteke. Townsend ate up the Gayle transfer fee. We need 5 players. We either sell one or two and get Sakho plus two or 3. Or we sign maybe 4 or 5 and no Sakho. There will be no signing Sakho and 3 or 4 others without sales to raise funds.
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| Dan89 Se25 05 Jul 17 9.06am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
You're not savvy on figures. No sh1t. And those 2 left backs can cover left mid. Zaha and Townsend can play right mid. What do you not understand about spending more than you earn means you lose money, on top of money you've already lost? And you're conveniently ignoring we sold Bolasie and Gayle to sign Benteke. Townsend ate up the Gayle transfer fee. We need 5 players. We either sell one or two and get Sakho plus two or 3. Or we sign maybe 4 or 5 and no Sakho. There will be no signing Sakho and 3 or 4 others without sales to raise funds. How come Huddersfield have spent close to 40m already on 5 players. How do they get this past FFP.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 05 Jul 17 9.11am |
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Originally posted by Dan89
How come Huddersfield have spent close to 40m already on 5 players. How do they get this past FFP. 1. One of the rules is on increases on last season. Huddersfield weren't in the prem last season so can start from anywhere as long as it's not above the limit over 3 seasons. Their signings won't be on £60k to £110k. More like £30k. 2. I will say it for a third time. We have been operating at a loss for a couple of Windows now. What do you do with your own credit card in that situation? An error we maybe made was saving money in our 1st season and not doing what Huddersfield and Bournemouth have done but looking at Holloway's and Parish's signings that Summer it's best we didn't. Edited by Rudi Hedman (05 Jul 2017 9.12am)
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 05 Jul 17 9.11am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
You're not savvy on figures. No sh1t. And those 2 left backs can cover left mid. Zaha and Townsend can play right mid. What do you not understand about spending more than you earn means you lose money, on top of money you've already lost? And you're conveniently ignoring we sold Bolasie and Gayle to sign Benteke. Townsend ate up the Gayle transfer fee. We need 5 players. We either sell one or two and get Sakho plus two or 3. Or we sign maybe 4 or 5 and no Sakho. There will be no signing Sakho and 3 or 4 others without sales to raise funds. One thing to remember is that the most recent set of published accounts run to 30 June 2016, which is before the most recent TV deal kicked in for the 2016/17 season. I believe the deal was around 50% more than the previous deal. This will no doubt have helped us in the signings made last summer and in January. I agree £30m on one player seems unlikely without selling a few players, but I would think we have a few fringe players we could sell for a few £m and replace them in the squad with youth players. I don't see that Sako or Lee offer much more than Kaikai for instance. He'll be 22 by September and Luke Croll is already 22.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 05 Jul 17 9.19am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
One thing to remember is that the most recent set of published accounts run to 30 June 2016, which is before the most recent TV deal kicked in for the 2016/17 season. I believe the deal was around 50% more than the previous deal. This will no doubt have helped us in the signings made last summer and in January. I agree £30m on one player seems unlikely without selling a few players, but I would think we have a few fringe players we could sell for a few £m and replace them in the squad with youth players. I don't see that Sako or Lee offer much more than Kaikai for instance. He'll be 22 by September and Luke Croll is already 22. I'll be surprised if we get anything for squad dross. Sako is on £60k. Mutch, not much, probably nothing. Lee? Maybe a mil. We can get players off the wage bill, something that's happening for us more now we're in our 5th season. Edited by Rudi Hedman (05 Jul 2017 9.21am)
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| Petereagle Brockley 05 Jul 17 9.31am |
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Originally posted by Dan89
I not savy on the figures but one thing I know is that Sakho the best centre back, I've seen in a Palace shirt. This FFP doesn't affect many other sides and personally don't think frank de Boer would of accepted the job if the budget was only 30m. While it was clever to get 2 left backs because PVA injury last season, to spend 28m on left backs was not great business sense in hindsight. We have the left side of defence sorted with good quality players. So worth the outlay in my view. Reassuring that Palace are now looking to reinforce the right side of defence and CB. They are clearly looking at cheaper options to Sakho like Rami (who signed for someone else) and Veltman (who signed a contract extension) Ideally I am sure they would like a couple of new players in before the HK trip, eg the Tete deal might (fingers crossed) might be close. There are loan rumours for Zouma (unlikely as he seems to want to,stay and fight for his place)
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| Lyons550 Shirley 05 Jul 17 9.34am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'd imagine one of the ideas is for him to come to us on a seasonal loan for 5 million with an option to buy for 25 at the end. Whatever happens....I don't see 30 million as practical for this season. I tend to agree...very few transfers are paid 'up front' and are normally staged payments based on team performance (i.e. us finishing in top 10 etc) We're effectively hanging the scousers out to dry on this one...they clearly want to get another CB in and cant do so unless they offload Mama...us then using rumoured interest in other options to test their resolve. Having said that, i'm not sure now having seen some of the other players we've allegedly been looking at, whether Sakho would be a wise purchase on his own...I think we'd def need another defender.
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 05 Jul 17 10.32am |
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We seem to be going about our business in an unconventional manner this summer. Announcing deals before they are completed. Worked with FDB, so hopefully it will with Sakho too.
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