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Hrolf The Ganger 23 May 17 12.33pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Depends where you are. In America you're around 100x more likely to be killed by an Evangelical than an Islamic terrorist. Look at the religion of most school massacres. But of course on a higher level you have the religious basis for American wars across the world. People don't realise the extent to this, but given that the Republican base is well over 50% Evangelical, while most of its political officials similarly believe in the literal truth of the Bible, it can't be underestimated how effective religious sentiment is in judtifying every foreign atrocity. It explains why the US is the only major power not committed to tackling climate change, because most Republicans think the earth was created 3000 years ago and Judgement Day is round the corner. This affects our national security, not only in us having to drastically raise spending on flood defences etc but in creating displaced populations around the world, where terrorist recruiters have a field day. True or not, we don't live in America. It is irrelevant.
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npn Crowborough 23 May 17 12.37pm | |
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Originally posted by pefwin
Just.........RIP. yup. Can't even begin to think about why, how, etc. How can you target a concert of a young lady with a massively young audience? Intentionally designed to take out children FFS regardless of your politics or religion, how can that even begin to constitute a valid target? Hope the dead died quickly, hope the survivors heal, hope all those affected find peace somehow.
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Lyons550 Shirley 23 May 17 12.41pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Best reform for all religions would be to just wake up, pack up their bags and admit there is no god and just fvck off. But as that isn't going to happen i say live and let live to those who have a peaceful God, and not a vengeful one, in their spiritual minds. Plenty of sects within all the three major religions do so don't feel anyone has the right to tell them to 'reform'.
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Stirlingsays 23 May 17 12.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
Can try and reform all people want there will always be a minority or people who take a teaching or words from any holy book and twist or interpret it to fit their own agenda. Know a few Muslims who are as sickened as everyone else about what has taken place. They don't want these acts being carried out in their name. They are sick of comments from strangers in the street when they go out that because they are Muslim or wearing a hijab they are a problem or menace in some way. Equally as fed up with the rantings I have seen elsewhere on the internet that insinuates we are all at war with Islam and all Muslims should be and I quote 'sent home' I don't want that kind of crap being spouted in my name as someone born in Britain. One thing I did hear on the news this morning was isis actually have globally in countries which they fight or with sympathisers who carry out individual terrorist attacks in the west more Muslim victims . Apparently 90%
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hedgehog50 Croydon 23 May 17 12.55pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Depends where you are. In America you're around 100x more likely to be killed by an Evangelical than an Islamic terrorist. Look at the religion of most school massacres. But of course on a higher level you have the religious basis for American wars across the world. People don't realise the extent to this, but given that the Republican base is well over 50% Evangelical, while most of its political officials similarly believe in the literal truth of the Bible, it can't be underestimated how effective religious sentiment is in judtifying every foreign atrocity. It explains why the US is the only major power not committed to tackling climate change, because most Republicans think the earth was created 3000 years ago and Judgement Day is round the corner. This affects our national security, not only in us having to drastically raise spending on flood defences etc but in creating displaced populations around the world, where terrorist recruiters have a field day. Killed in the name of the Christian religion?
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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 23 May 17 1.04pm | |
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Any human being who kills another in the name of their own cloud monkey, should be wiped from existence, and any one who believes in said Gods Superiority over others. It's like killing someone over the "who's harder Batman or Superman" argument. Just beggars belief that 22 people including children have had there life snuffed out because of some baseless antiquated bulls***.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 23 May 17 1.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Men in Islam are also supposed to dress modestly. But yes I agree, the sentiment is that women who don't dress immodestly, are immoral.
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 23 May 17 1.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
What do you suggest? Well here is a suggestion? Certain countries should be put on an approved list, meaning that to travel to these countries you need permission to travel out of the UK to them. If when re-entering the UK you cant prove the reason why you were in Iraq, Syria, pakistan or any other crap hole you shouldn't feel to put out If you are taken in for interrogation & summarily put up in court & be liable to say a 10 stretch in prison.
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MrCParrot Taunton 23 May 17 1.18pm | |
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Originally posted by ElliottHutchins
I was in Manchester on Sunday for the football and me and my Dad went for drinks and food afterwards and I was saying how much I liked Manchester. My dad lives and works in the centre as well. One of my girlfriend's friends and her 8 year old daughter were at the concert as well. Thankfully they are home but are shaken. Apparently, her husband drove at 120mph down the M62 from Leeds to pick them up (they were meant to be getting the train back). This was far too close to home for me. Absolutely terrified for the future of my kids. I can't even begin to understand how those parents of missing kids feel. It's really upset me this has Thank goodness for that. I would have done the same as the husband tbh but my daughter is 4 hours away. Thankfully a taxi was on hand to get her home. Parrot
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Apollofuzz On the edge of reason 23 May 17 1.19pm | |
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Originally posted by dannyh
Any human being who kills another in the name of their own cloud monkey, should be wiped from existence, and any one who believes in said Gods Superiority over others. It's like killing someone over the "who's harder Batman or Superman" argument. Just beggars belief that 22 people including children have had there life snuffed out because of some baseless antiquated bulls***. Well said
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 23 May 17 1.21pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
First and foremost, a tragic day for all those affected. On the point of Religious Fundamentalism, I disagree that Islam is unique as a world religion atm. Around 30% of Americans are Evangelicals, who believe the Biblenis thenliteral word of God, that Jesus will be reborn in theirnlifetime and that America should 'spread' God's message. Evangelicals are the fastest growing segment of the church globally. That is a group from which numerous mass murderers, war mongers and race hate groups have stemmed from, not just recently, but for well over a hundred years. The emergence of global Islamic terrorism is fairly recent, probably dating to the Gulf war and formation of Hezbollah. To tackle it, we have to stop leaving countries like Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, Yemen and Iraq in anarchy. .....Surprised that you didn't mention the Crusdades !!
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hedgehog50 Croydon 23 May 17 1.23pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Men in Islam are also supposed to dress modestly. But yes I agree, the sentiment is that women who don't dress immodestly, are immoral. Would my Eagles spandex hotpants be allowed?
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