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Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Dec 16 9.55am
Originally posted by Willo Cheer up everbody ! After that run of 6 consecutive defeats we have now gone 2 games unbeaten, got 4 pts out of a possible 6 and have scored 6 goals in the process ! Gifted 3 points. Changed tac for a home game when he was the under pressure in front of 24,000 Palace fans. Away from our fans returns to the usual end to end football to entertain the neutrals and put our survival at risk. Does he think every match being like Villa Park 1990 is a good thing? COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 11 Dec 16 9.55am

Originally posted by Willo

Cheer up everbody !

After that run of 6 consecutive defeats we have now gone 2 games unbeaten, got 4 pts out of a possible 6 and have scored 6 goals in the process !

Gifted 3 points.

Changed tac for a home game when he was the under pressure in front of 24,000 Palace fans.

Away from our fans returns to the usual end to end football to entertain the neutrals and put our survival at risk. Does he think every match being like Villa Park 1990 is a good thing?

COYP

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Dec 16 10.00am
Originally posted by spartakev2 but it was man utd and Chelsea, you can't expect us to beat them. All you pardew out supporters are dillusional if you think we should be beating teams like that. We'll definately beat Watford. Feel free to copy and paste next week. He builds this cr&p up over a series of games. Poorly prepared for West Brom and West Ham. Shocking 1st half v Bournemouth. Awful at Burnley, Swansea etc etc etc. And that's partly how he ends up trying to win every game by going all out. Because last week and the weeks before we accrued feck all. That and clubs watching videos of 3 games back find it easy devising a plan to beat him. They then copy it and the 6 game losing runs happen. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 11 Dec 16 10.00am

Originally posted by spartakev2

but it was man utd and Chelsea, you can't expect us to beat them. All you pardew out supporters are dillusional if you think we should be beating teams like that. We'll definately beat Watford.

Feel free to copy and paste next week.

He builds this cr&p up over a series of games. Poorly prepared for West Brom and West Ham. Shocking 1st half v Bournemouth. Awful at Burnley, Swansea etc etc etc. And that's partly how he ends up trying to win every game by going all out. Because last week and the weeks before we accrued feck all. That and clubs watching videos of 3 games back find it easy devising a plan to beat him. They then copy it and the 6 game losing runs happen.

COYP

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Dec 16 10.08am
Originally posted by spartakev2 but it was man utd and Chelsea, you can't expect us to beat them. All you pardew out supporters are dillusional if you think we should be beating teams like that. We'll definately beat Watford. Feel free to copy and paste next week. We should have definitely beat 1 of Hull, Burnley, Swansea, Bournemouth, West Brom. We have only beaten 4 teams in really sh1t form at the time and on the day. Mboro and Sunderland are and we're obviously sh1t. Stoke were awful at the time we beat them and Southampton looked jaded when we played them following a series of Europa League games we haven't had. So he got to an acceptable level before a draw at Everton and then 3 tough games after that. Ok we lost those but managed to turn that into another 3 losses that shouldn't have happened so the excuses of who they are run out at some point. Sadly that's when Parish admits it's no good any longer when we're shorter odds to go down with less than 1 point per game and in the bottom 3. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 11 Dec 16 10.08am

Originally posted by spartakev2

but it was man utd and Chelsea, you can't expect us to beat them. All you pardew out supporters are dillusional if you think we should be beating teams like that. We'll definately beat Watford.

Feel free to copy and paste next week.

We should have definitely beat 1 of Hull, Burnley, Swansea, Bournemouth, West Brom. We have only beaten 4 teams in really sh1t form at the time and on the day. Mboro and Sunderland are and we're obviously sh1t. Stoke were awful at the time we beat them and Southampton looked jaded when we played them following a series of Europa League games we haven't had.

So he got to an acceptable level before a draw at Everton and then 3 tough games after that. Ok we lost those but managed to turn that into another 3 losses that shouldn't have happened so the excuses of who they are run out at some point. Sadly that's when Parish admits it's no good any longer when we're shorter odds to go down with less than 1 point per game and in the bottom 3.

COYP

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Painter Croydon 11 Dec 16 10.14am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman We should have definitely beat 1 of Hull, Burnley, Swansea, Bournemouth, West Brom. We have only beaten 4 teams in really sh1t form at the time and on the day. Mboro and Sunderland are and we're obviously sh1t. Stoke were awful at the time we beat them and Southampton looked jaded when we played them following a series of Europa League games we haven't had. So he got to an acceptable level before a draw at Everton and then 3 tough games after that. Ok we lost those but managed to turn that into another 3 losses that shouldn't have happened so the excuses of who they are run out at some point. Sadly that's when Parish admits it's no good any longer when we're shorter odds to go down with less than 1 point per game and in the bottom 3. Your sense of entitlement again. Anybody can beat anybody in this league, as it has been seen many times. Edited by Painter (11 Dec 2016 10.21am)
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Painter

Croydon 11 Dec 16 10.14am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

We should have definitely beat 1 of Hull, Burnley, Swansea, Bournemouth, West Brom. We have only beaten 4 teams in really sh1t form at the time and on the day. Mboro and Sunderland are and we're obviously sh1t. Stoke were awful at the time we beat them and Southampton looked jaded when we played them following a series of Europa League games we haven't had.

Your sense of entitlement again. Anybody can beat anybody in this league, as it has been seen many times.

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sickboy Deal or Croydon 11 Dec 16 10.16am
Originally posted by NickinOX I'd argue the funniest ones are the tossers who are clueless about the club's actual history, and ignore the fact that we've just had two of the best seasons in 111 years. Hes had a hard on for getting rid of AP forever. He started a similar thread last season after 2 or 3 games. Even offered me out on a dm. I dont bite or take anything he says seriously anymore.
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Deal or Croydon 11 Dec 16 10.16am

Originally posted by NickinOX

I'd argue the funniest ones are the tossers who are clueless about the club's actual history, and ignore the fact that we've just had two of the best seasons in 111 years.

Hes had a hard on for getting rid of AP forever. He started a similar thread last season after 2 or 3 games. Even offered me out on a dm. I dont bite or take anything he says seriously anymore.

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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 11 Dec 16 10.28am
Although like many I was relieved when we equalised, this still feels like a loss to me. We didn't play well and maybe we should give Hull a bit more credit, but when you see our first team against theirs then the fact we were winning, it's just Swansea all over again except we managed to pull it back, but it's THE SAME MISTAKES AGAINST CRAP OPPOSITION EVERYTIME. I was there yesterday BTW.
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Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 11 Dec 16 10.28am

Although like many I was relieved when we equalised, this still feels like a loss to me. We didn't play well and maybe we should give Hull a bit more credit, but when you see our first team against theirs then the fact we were winning, it's just Swansea all over again except we managed to pull it back, but it's THE SAME MISTAKES AGAINST CRAP OPPOSITION EVERYTIME. I was there yesterday BTW.

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Shortbutts Birmingham 11 Dec 16 10.33am
I am shocked at the rhetoric on here at the moment. Perhaps others will say I lack ambition for the club, but I do not see Palace as being in crisis. There were some positives today. We came back from a dodgy penalty when it would have been justified for our heads to drop. Wilf had a great game - he is getting less into his sulks. We scored 3 goals - when was the last time that Palace scored as freely as we are? We came back from a goal behind and did not lose in the last minute - it is also good to get a draw for a change (we had lost the knack). And perhaps most remarkably Campbell scored! However, exciting as it is, I am frustrated by the poor defending and inability to hold onto a lead. I am especially concerned by Dann's lack of form. Our defending crisis seemed to start when he was out injured, but he has not been the usual stalwart or leader since he's returned. I think we also miss Soaure. If we can get the defending together then the results will follow. Most of the commentary on our games is positive apart from that aspect. I still think Pardew has the dressing room. If he did not I would agree that he should go now. We are on a two game unbeaten run. Let's see how we do up to Christmas. Look at Leicester - they were below us until their result yesterday. As for the comments we have to beat teams like Hull. They have recently beaten Southampton and drew with West Brom - both of whom had been doing well; so hardly whipping boys. There are few easy away games and no consistently awful teams this year. There are a number of clubs, like us, who are having good and then bad runs. However it is imperative that we improve our home form.
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Birmingham 11 Dec 16 10.33am

I am shocked at the rhetoric on here at the moment. Perhaps others will say I lack ambition for the club, but I do not see Palace as being in crisis.

There were some positives today. We came back from a dodgy penalty when it would have been justified for our heads to drop. Wilf had a great game - he is getting less into his sulks. We scored 3 goals - when was the last time that Palace scored as freely as we are? We came back from a goal behind and did not lose in the last minute - it is also good to get a draw for a change (we had lost the knack). And perhaps most remarkably Campbell scored!

However, exciting as it is, I am frustrated by the poor defending and inability to hold onto a lead. I am especially concerned by Dann's lack of form. Our defending crisis seemed to start when he was out injured, but he has not been the usual stalwart or leader since he's returned. I think we also miss Soaure.

If we can get the defending together then the results will follow. Most of the commentary on our games is positive apart from that aspect. I still think Pardew has the dressing room. If he did not I would agree that he should go now. We are on a two game unbeaten run. Let's see how we do up to Christmas. Look at Leicester - they were below us until their result yesterday.

As for the comments we have to beat teams like Hull. They have recently beaten Southampton and drew with West Brom - both of whom had been doing well; so hardly whipping boys. There are few easy away games and no consistently awful teams this year. There are a number of clubs, like us, who are having good and then bad runs. However it is imperative that we improve our home form.

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Selhurstboys Basel 11 Dec 16 10.56am
Originally posted by Dangermouse I had no faith in the team holding on, no. Not because of Pardew though, directly. Think because of AP's front foot philosophy costing us so many points during 2016 the confidence out on the pitch is shot. They've forgotten how to win. They fight back so many times that they clearly are playing for him, but mentally this team, not just defence are shot. I've always said it, AP rarely goes out to not lose and therefore these non winning streaks just go on and on and that slowly erodes the mental strength of the group. For the next four games he has to go Pulis style in my opinion, but I know he won't and we'll probably have glorious failures in the matches vs the big guns and contrive a way to throw it away against Watford. In some ways AP is like many on here, he goes out expecting to beat teams because, "It's just ( insert name here)" and we should beat them. It's that footballing arrogance/attitude that is costing us IMO and many fans act the same way. If Pardew's not directly interfering in the game he shouldn't be in the dugout!
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Selhurstboys

Basel 11 Dec 16 10.56am

Originally posted by Dangermouse

I had no faith in the team holding on, no. Not because of Pardew though, directly.
Think because of AP's front foot philosophy costing us so many points during 2016 the confidence out on the pitch is shot. They've forgotten how to win. They fight back so many times that they clearly are playing for him, but mentally this team, not just defence are shot.
I've always said it, AP rarely goes out to not lose and therefore these non winning streaks just go on and on and that slowly erodes the mental strength of the group.
For the next four games he has to go Pulis style in my opinion, but I know he won't and we'll probably have glorious failures in the matches vs the big guns and contrive a way to throw it away against Watford.
In some ways AP is like many on here, he goes out expecting to beat teams because, "It's just ( insert name here)" and we should beat them. It's that footballing arrogance/attitude that is costing us IMO and many fans act the same way.

If Pardew's not directly interfering in the game he shouldn't be in the dugout!

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Selhurstboys Basel 11 Dec 16 11.19am
Originally posted by Shortbutts I am shocked at the rhetoric on here at the moment. Perhaps others will say I lack ambition for the club, but I do not see Palace as being in crisis. There were some positives today. We came back from a dodgy penalty when it would have been justified for our heads to drop. Wilf had a great game - he is getting less into his sulks. We scored 3 goals - when was the last time that Palace scored as freely as we are? We came back from a goal behind and did not lose in the last minute - it is also good to get a draw for a change (we had lost the knack). And perhaps most remarkably Campbell scored! However, exciting as it is, I am frustrated by the poor defending and inability to hold onto a lead. I am especially concerned by Dann's lack of form. Our defending crisis seemed to start when he was out injured, but he has not been the usual stalwart or leader since he's returned. I think we also miss Soaure. If we can get the defending together then the results will follow. Most of the commentary on our games is positive apart from that aspect. I still think Pardew has the dressing room. If he did not I would agree that he should go now. We are on a two game unbeaten run. Let's see how we do up to Christmas. Look at Leicester - they were below us until their result yesterday. As for the comments we have to beat teams like Hull. They have recently beaten Southampton and drew with West Brom - both of whom had been doing well; so hardly whipping boys. There are few easy away games and no consistently awful teams this year. There are a number of clubs, like us, who are having good and then bad runs. However it is imperative that we improve our home form. After watching that disjointed effort yesterday I'd say we definitely are in a crisis. I saw players out there who weren't sure what they should be doing especially knowing when to switch between defending and attack, they weren't together or quick enough. If it weren't for Wilf we probably would've been seriously embarrassed. I think Pardew's lost his way with the style he was developing because we weren't getting any points and is now fudging it but the players are lost out there on the pitch. Leicester's win over City yesterday proves Guardiola style football isn't a sure way to win football matches in this league. You have to be able to adapt more and we don't seem to be able to do that and that's where Pardew has to take responsibility.
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Basel 11 Dec 16 11.19am

Originally posted by Shortbutts

I am shocked at the rhetoric on here at the moment. Perhaps others will say I lack ambition for the club, but I do not see Palace as being in crisis.

After watching that disjointed effort yesterday I'd say we definitely are in a crisis. I saw players out there who weren't sure what they should be doing especially knowing when to switch between defending and attack, they weren't together or quick enough. If it weren't for Wilf we probably would've been seriously embarrassed.
I think Pardew's lost his way with the style he was developing because we weren't getting any points and is now fudging it but the players are lost out there on the pitch. Leicester's win over City yesterday proves Guardiola style football isn't a sure way to win football matches in this league. You have to be able to adapt more and we don't seem to be able to do that and that's where Pardew has to take responsibility.

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Mstrobez 11 Dec 16 11.55am
Originally posted by sickboy Hes had a hard on for getting rid of AP forever. He started a similar thread last season after 2 or 3 games. Even offered me out on a dm. I dont bite or take anything he says seriously anymore. Possibly because the thread wasn't in anyway similar to this but more to point I was still 100% unsure about Pardew whilst people like you were rimming him and praising our "free flowing football" haha. Then you got all brave behind your computer screen and starting firing abuse my way like a lot do on here because I had a different opinion to you and wasn't blindly sucking "super Als" genitals. So I thought instead of getting into some keyboard debate I'd speak with you directly to see how you'd feel about having this chat before a game instead. Unsurprisingly, like a lot on here, you'd rather not and I'm guessing because you wouldn't feel even half as assertive in your abuse when it comes to a real life situation. I don't care if you take me seriously, you didn't take me seriously last year when I questioned what wasn't so great about pardew and now we have the worst record in English football so maybe there was something in what I was saying. Carry on not taking me seriously, still gonna say what I think. We're the Arthur over ere!
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Mstrobez

11 Dec 16 11.55am

Originally posted by sickboy

Hes had a hard on for getting rid of AP forever. He started a similar thread last season after 2 or 3 games. Even offered me out on a dm. I dont bite or take anything he says seriously anymore.

Possibly because the thread wasn't in anyway similar to this but more to point I was still 100% unsure about Pardew whilst people like you were rimming him and praising our "free flowing football" haha.

Then you got all brave behind your computer screen and starting firing abuse my way like a lot do on here because I had a different opinion to you and wasn't blindly sucking "super Als" genitals. So I thought instead of getting into some keyboard debate I'd speak with you directly to see how you'd feel about having this chat before a game instead. Unsurprisingly, like a lot on here, you'd rather not and I'm guessing because you wouldn't feel even half as assertive in your abuse when it comes to a real life situation.

I don't care if you take me seriously, you didn't take me seriously last year when I questioned what wasn't so great about pardew and now we have the worst record in English football so maybe there was something in what I was saying. Carry on not taking me seriously, still gonna say what I think.

We're the Arthur over ere!

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Mstrobez 11 Dec 16 12.02pm
Originally posted by NickinOX I'd argue the funniest ones are the tossers who are clueless about the club's actual history, and ignore the fact that we've just had two of the best seasons in 111 years. This is a prime example of the abuse, just because you live in a dream world and worship an arrogant, clueless c* who ironically talks about how our new owners know nothing about football (J'd argue neither does he). I'm a tosser, why exactly? What the f* is wrong with preferring the last 4 years as a palace fan than the rest of them and wanting it to continue for as long as possible? Please explain We're the Arthur over ere!
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Mstrobez

11 Dec 16 12.02pm

Originally posted by NickinOX

I'd argue the funniest ones are the tossers who are clueless about the club's actual history, and ignore the fact that we've just had two of the best seasons in 111 years.

This is a prime example of the abuse, just because you live in a dream world and worship an arrogant, clueless c*** who ironically talks about how our new owners know nothing about football (J'd argue neither does he).

I'm a tosser, why exactly? What the f*** is wrong with preferring the last 4 years as a palace fan than the rest of them and wanting it to continue for as long as possible? Please explain

We're the Arthur over ere!

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Mstrobez 11 Dec 16 12.05pm
Anyone with ambition is a tosser. All hail king Pardew We're the Arthur over ere!
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11 Dec 16 12.05pm

Anyone with ambition is a tosser. All hail king Pardew

We're the Arthur over ere!

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