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Flash Flag Lampeter 02 Sep 16 6.43pm

This guys analysis is a huge optimism fix.
[Link]
But it's exactly how I hope it goes. He sees Townsend crossing from the left & tracking back to help out Souare. Remy supporting Benteke in the middle. Goals guaranteed from both, he predicts. Not mentioned, but presumably Wilf will be assured of his right midfield role and with the bonus of not being double or treble marked. Tomkins a younger upgrade on Delaney with better distributive skills, who (at 35 - is this right? - must check) becomes the Hangeland from last season. And then Mandanda - a top grade, commanding GK who's also a good distributor.
Is this a possibility or just dreamland?
Hell - I need some Mogadon to calm me down!

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 02 Sep 16 7.11pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Flash

This guys analysis is a huge optimism fix.
[Link]
But it's exactly how I hope it goes. He sees Townsend crossing from the left & tracking back to help out Souare. Remy supporting Benteke in the middle. Goals guaranteed from both, he predicts. Not mentioned, but presumably Wilf will be assured of his right midfield role and with the bonus of not being double or treble marked. Tomkins a younger upgrade on Delaney with better distributive skills, who (at 35 - is this right? - must check) becomes the Hangeland from last season. And then Mandanda - a top grade, commanding GK who's also a good distributor.
Is this a possibility or just dreamland?
Hell - I need some Mogadon to calm me down!

Not sure why Wilf won't be marked just the same. What the oppo have to contend with if we do play 4-4-2 which you and maybe blogger are referring to is, a gap between midfield and the 2 strikers. That gives them a bit of elasticity to double up on Wilf Id expect.

We've made some great signings but there are limitations to what we can do. No real number 10 and if Cabaye or Jimmac get injured the quality to turn defence into attack and accuracy of passing just isn't there with the others.

I can see AP trying 4-3-3 to get:

a) Benteke and Remy playing. Remy can play wide in a 4-3-3.

b) Having 3 mids who can do a mixture of defence and attack. Best example is Cabay, Jimmac and Punch.


But that'll mean 1 of Wilf or Townsend sitting out, although a change in most games on 60 mins would be most welcome. But would you want to take off Remy? So if it's either Wilf or Townsend there's a problem.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (02 Sep 2016 8.16pm)

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 02 Sep 16 7.38pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Flash

This guys analysis is a huge optimism fix.
[Link]

Interesting and well written analysis from a website that I hadn't come across before so many thanks for the link

 

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Palace in the Blood Flag 02 Sep 16 7.39pm Send a Private Message to Palace in the Blood Add Palace in the Blood as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Not sure why Wilf won't be marked just the same. What the oppo have to contend with if we do play 4-4-2 which you and maybe blogger are referring to is, a gap between midfield and the 2 strikers. That gives them a bit of elasticity to double up on Wilf Id expect.

We've made some great signings but there are limitations to what we can do. No real number 10 and if Cabaye or Jimmac get injured the quality to turn defence into attack and accuracy of passing just isn't there with the others.

I can see AP trying 4-3-3 to get:

a) Benteke and Remy playing. Remy can play wide in a 4-3-3.

b) Having 3 mids who can do a mixture of defence and attack. Best example is Cabay, Jimmac and Punch.


But that'll mean 1 of Wilf or Townsend sitting out, although a change in most games on 9mins would be most welcome. But would you want to take off Remy? So if it's either Wilf or Townsend there's a problem.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (02 Sep 2016 7.12pm)

Of all the players that have come in the one I have most concern about is Remy. He hasn't played a lot and has had a lot of injuries over last few years. If he is the Remy that was at Newcastle no problem but seemed a shadow of his former self last year at Chelsea

 

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Flash Flag Lampeter 02 Sep 16 7.39pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Not sure why Wilf won't be marked just the same. What the oppo have to contend with if we do play 4-4-2 which you and maybe blogger are referring to is, a gap between midfield and the 2 strikers. That gives them a bit of elasticity to double up on Wilf Id expect.

We've made some great signings but there are limitations to what we can do. No real number 10 and if Cabaye or Jimmac get injured the quality to turn defence into attack and accuracy of passing just isn't there with the others.

I can see AP trying 4-3-3 to get:

a) Benteke and Remy playing. Remy can play wide in a 4-3-3.

b) Having 3 mids who can do a mixture of defence and attack. Best example is Cabay, Jimmac and Punch.


But that'll mean 1 of Wilf or Townsend sitting out, although a change in most games on 9mins would be most welcome. But would you want to take off Remy? So if it's either Wilf or Townsend there's a problem.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (02 Sep 2016 7.12pm)

What's your line up? Mine would be:

Mandanda

Ward
Dann
Tomkins
Souare

Zaha
Cabaye
Puncheon
Townsend

Remy
Benteke

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 02 Sep 16 8.25pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Flash

What's your line up? Mine would be:

Mandanda

Ward
Dann
Tomkins
Souare

Zaha
Cabaye
Puncheon
Townsend

Remy
Benteke

It's a dilemma and dilemmas are usually good for a manager because they mean options. Only in our case the lack of real quality in attacking mid hinders us.

For me Jimmac is one of those I'd have 1st on the team sheet with Dann and Benteke. That's your 1st choices through the spine whatever the formation. Then you're bound to have Cabaye next to him and when they were on form we were at our best. But we had usually Punch between them and the striker. That means Remy probably wouldn't start and it's a good point about fitness levels so that's maybe what AP will do to begin with.

So to start I'd expect similar to last season if they're all available with Townsend instead of Bolasie and Benteke up top:

Ward, Dann, Tomkins, Souare
Zaha, Cabaye, Jimmac, Townsend
----------Punch-----------
---------Benteke----------


Then I suspect he'll aim to go 4-3-3 with:

Ward, Dann, Tomkins, Souare
---Cabaye, Punch, Jimmac---
---RW-----Benteke-----Remy

RW could be either Zaha or Townsend and so could LW.

They both look the same but I don't see Remy tracking back enough in a 4-4-1-1 or 4-2-3-1 or whatever guise.

Lee is going to be interesting but I'll be surprised if he's as good as he was vs Bournemouth.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (02 Sep 2016 8.28pm)

 


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ThatPetrolRelation Flag Ottawa 02 Sep 16 8.28pm Send a Private Message to ThatPetrolRelation Add ThatPetrolRelation as a friend

I think this quote from SP is indicative:
“We are trying to buy players who will definitely improve us – we are in a rarefied market,” said Parish to Holmesdale Radio. “It is more difficult than buying the best in the Championship, which is probably where our strategy has been.”

I think Cabaye was the turning point, as far as helping convince players to sign here. The Benteke signing was no doubt tough negotiations, but it likely helped convince Remy Palace would be a good opportunity for him.

Hopefully we can make some noise in the league, and some elite AM's will be more likely to take SP's calls in January. Someone was mocked for suggesting Juan Mata earlier in the year, but I truly think we are getting closer to being able to attract that type of player.

 

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Elphers40 Flag Sunny South Coast 02 Sep 16 9.47pm Send a Private Message to Elphers40 Add Elphers40 as a friend

Nice one flash! - Good link that one.

But if you must be careful not to insite a dangerous outbreak of optimism on here!

I'm off to run round the block waving my cup final flag! Eeeeeeeguulllsss!

 

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Palace_Jack Flag Croydon 09 Sep 16 11.40am Send a Private Message to Palace_Jack Add Palace_Jack as a friend

Now that we've signed Flamini, couldn't Yo' slot into the AM role or indeed our best chance creator, Punch?

We needed another decent DM to free those boys up, we've done that now, I don't share the concern for recruiting another number 10.

Our issues weren't in the players we have in the squad it was the ones we didn't. We needed to recruit well to get the best out of who we have. Better strikers, should see the best out of our wingers and creative players, equally, the spine being stronger should free up those players too.

Or am I missing something?

Edited by Palace_Jack (09 Sep 2016 11.40am)

Edited by Palace_Jack (09 Sep 2016 11.41am)

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Sep 16 12.02pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Palace_Jack

Now that we've signed Flamini, couldn't Yo' slot into the AM role or indeed our best chance creator, Punch?

We needed another decent DM to free those boys up, we've done that now, I don't share the concern for recruiting another number 10.

Our issues weren't in the players we have in the squad it was the ones we didn't. We needed to recruit well to get the best out of who we have. Better strikers, should see the best out of our wingers and creative players, equally, the spine being stronger should free up those players too.

Or am I missing something?

Edited by Palace_Jack (09 Sep 2016 11.40am)

Edited by Palace_Jack (09 Sep 2016 11.41am)

I gave it a 7 or 8 now I give it an 8 because tme will tell regarding injuries and the few positions we're vulnerable in. I am not criticising SP or AP, just highlighting the situation. We've signed really well but don't get carried away.

We have lost Remy and the nonsensical reaction of it being a blessing in disguise shows fan denial of such problems. He is not only a striker but a wide option. The only quality one to take players on maybe.

Flamini is another lacking match fitness so people need to give him as a 100% option a little time as well. We really needed one more at number 10 or midfield cos we're 1 injury from being limited again. But that's not a moan, it's a limitation.

Talk of mid-table at least is another premature expectation. It's a slippery pole from there to 17th so anywhere 2 results away from 18th is fine as a minimum and none of this win a Couple and lose 4 in a row risky stuff please.

Roll on Saturday. Everyone needs it.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Sep 2016 12.04pm)

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 09 Sep 16 1.24pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

We have lost Remy and the nonsensical reaction of it being a blessing in disguise shows fan denial of such problems. He is not only a striker but a wide option. The only quality one to take players on maybe.

Be fair. That was just one person's opinion and he was roundly disparaged for it

 

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Petereagle Flag Brockley 09 Sep 16 4.33pm Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I gave it a 7 or 8 now I give it an 8 because tme will tell regarding injuries and the few positions we're vulnerable in. I am not criticising SP or AP, just highlighting the situation. We've signed really well but don't get carried away.

We have lost Remy and the nonsensical reaction of it being a blessing in disguise shows fan denial of such problems. He is not only a striker but a wide option. The only quality one to take players on maybe.

Flamini is another lacking match fitness so people need to give him as a 100% option a little time as well. We really needed one more at number 10 or midfield cos we're 1 injury from being limited again. But that's not a moan, it's a limitation.

Talk of mid-table at least is another premature expectation. It's a slippery pole from there to 17th so anywhere 2 results away from 18th is fine as a minimum and none of this win a Couple and lose 4 in a row risky stuff please.

Roll on Saturday. Everyone needs it.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Sep 2016 12.04pm)

I think Palace are poised to make steady improvement in the league table once all their new signings are matchfit and key people like JimmyMac are really up to speed. Most people realise I think that whilst we have made a great start in renewing and upgrading the squad we are still maybe 3 or 4 top quality players short, and it may take a couple more windows to get these players in. Meanwhile the injury to Remy leaves us light again in the striker department, and we are vulnerable if we dont put a few decent results on the board soon...

 

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