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 gambler  Kent 12 Feb 16 4.10pm |
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Bacon Jane Horrocks
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| miles18 Telford 12 Feb 16 4.49pm |
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From right wing to the nonce wing. Seriously tho he did wanna sign for Man U after hearing they had players Young, blind and Keane.
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| Part Time James 12 Feb 16 4.55pm |
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Bacon in the morning = Shepherd's warning
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| Qwijibo Bournemouth 12 Feb 16 6.40pm |
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Having heard details today, there's no way he didn't know her age. Along the lines of "Where do you go out?" Even if his argument was he thought she was 16... What kind of 28 year old wants to get with a 16 y.o? He's f***ed.
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Kermit8  Hevon 12 Feb 16 6.41pm |
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Rolf looks like he was up to no good with girls as young as 13 when he was in his 40's and 50's which puts him in deeper nonce territory. [Link] As for Johnson at his age - a 15 year old is still a child and not even a young adult. I say that as a 28 year old teacher back in the nineties who taught hundreds of 15 year old girls English. They might have curvy figures,etc, but emotionally they are still kids and any adult who ignores that is a wrong 'un. Absolutely no excuses and no mitigating factors about other countries age of consent. The more enlightened ones limit that age of consent to their partners not being much older than them. A 28 year old would still be a nonce/criminal. Edited by Kermit8 (12 Feb 2016 6.45pm)
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 12 Feb 16 6.45pm |
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Originally posted by cardiff eagle
He's clearly done something wrong but think a lot of the reactions has been a bit over the top. The way people are talking are like he raped a five year old not had consenting sex. In many countries, this wouldn't have been an issue as ages of consent vary. For me morally, the basic questions are: 1. Was it consenting sex? As the answer to number 3 is yes, then he deserves punishment but I think putting it into context is important when thinking about it.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 12 Feb 16 6.49pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
A 17 year old would be the max for my daughter when she is 15 and any older serious alarm bells would start ringing. Edited by Kermit8 (12 Feb 2016 6.49pm)
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| Stuart Shave Hampshire 12 Feb 16 6.59pm |
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Originally posted by cardiff eagle
He's clearly done something wrong but think a lot of the reactions has been a bit over the top. The way people are talking are like he raped a five year old not had consenting sex. In many countries, this wouldn't have been an issue as ages of consent vary. For me morally, the basic questions are: 1. Was it consenting sex? As the answer to number 3 is yes, then he deserves punishment but I think putting it into context is important when thinking about it. An extremely valid post. There's no doubt he has done wrong, committed a crime and abused his position but at 15 - she is capable of saying yes or no. I've no doubt if she said no, he would've probably pestered her for a bit and then gone away to work on somebody else as footballers do. As Cardiff Eagle has stated, what if Taylor Swift had slept with a 15 year old boy? Yes, she to would have to deal with the consequences but I suspect this thread would be a lot more light hearted with plenty of high fives for the 15 year old boy!
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| Kermit8 Hevon 12 Feb 16 7.06pm |
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Originally posted by Stuart Shave
An extremely valid post. There's no doubt he has done wrong, committed a crime and abused his position but at 15 - she is capable of saying yes or no. I've no doubt if she said no, he would've probably pestered her for a bit and then gone away to work on somebody else as footballers do. As Cardiff Eagle has stated, what if Taylor Swift had slept with a 15 year old boy? Yes, she to would have to deal with the consequences but I suspect this thread would be a lot more light hearted with plenty of high fives for the 15 year old boy! You are on the wrong track with that one. There is a reason why the law says kids that age cannot consent even if they say 'yes' as thousands of abused kids have, whether it was priests, older relatives, friendly strangers doing the asking. I say asking but it is actually called 'grooming'. Persuading/controling the person so they agree. Your angle, though kinda innocently put, is exactly what a paedophile/pederast would use by way of mitigating what they do - 'She said 'yes - she seemed to enjoy it. I was nice to her' etc.
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 12 Feb 16 7.09pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
A 17 year old would be the max for my daughter when she is 15 and any older serious alarm bells would start ringing. Edited by Kermit8 (12 Feb 2016 6.49pm) Indeed and when you read what's come out in court, there is absolutely no doubt that he new what he was doing and more importantly that it was wrong.
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| Stuart Shave Hampshire 12 Feb 16 7.28pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
You are on the wrong track with that one. There is a reason why the law says kids that age cannot consent even if they say 'yes' as thousands of abused kids have, whether it was priests, older relatives, friendly strangers doing the asking. I say asking but it is actually called 'grooming'. Persuading/controling the person so they agree. Your angle, though kinda innocently put, is exactly what a paedophile/pederast would use by way of mitigating what they do - 'She said 'yes - she seemed to enjoy it. I was nice to her' etc. Ok, getting into an area that is dodgy in terms of a website conversation! A paedophile is sick and will stop at nothing to get at his target. No matter what age. Yes, no - makes no difference. My thoughts are that AJ isn't sick, he is a footballer with a massive ego and wallet so much so that he probably thinks he is above the law as a lot of footballers do with his brains in his pants. But I stand by the fact that a 15 year old is capable of saying no to advances. The fault lays solely with him, but is he a paedophile? Not in a million years. If she had told him where to go I suspect he wouldn't be in court. I have first hand experiences of watching a Palace player from the past do exactly the same thing to a friend of mine. She told him to f*** off and he did. Edited by Stuart Shave (12 Feb 2016 7.30pm)
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| topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 13 Feb 16 10.36am |
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Originally posted by Stuart Shave
Ok, getting into an area that is dodgy in terms of a website conversation! A paedophile is sick and will stop at nothing to get at his target. No matter what age. Yes, no - makes no difference. My thoughts are that AJ isn't sick, he is a footballer with a massive ego and wallet so much so that he probably thinks he is above the law as a lot of footballers do with his brains in his pants. But I stand by the fact that a 15 year old is capable of saying no to advances. The fault lays solely with him, but is he a paedophile? Not in a million years. If she had told him where to go I suspect he wouldn't be in court. I have first hand experiences of watching a Palace player from the past do exactly the same thing to a friend of mine. She told him to f*** off and he did. Edited by Stuart Shave (12 Feb 2016 7.30pm) That says a lot about you. He's a 28 year old who was grooming a 15 year old (only just 15). He probably could have had his pick of any number of girls in their 20s but went for a girl he knew to be 15.
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