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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Apr 15 11.17am
Quote matt_himself at 03 Apr 2015 11.08am Also, all of the above is bollocks. Mealy mouthed politico bollocks. Only UKIP want to debate the issues that matter to the country. The Tories don't and are actively seeking to avoid the debate. Don't see too many UKIP debates around health, education, law and order etc etc ! In any event they can say what they want as they will never be in a position to have to keep to their promises ! Conservatives are not shying away from any debate on immigration but why narrow the debate to satisfy UKIP when there are so many other areas of policy to discuss ? Edited by Willo (03 Apr 2015 11.22am)
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South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Apr 15 11.17am

Quote matt_himself at 03 Apr 2015 11.08am

Also, all of the above is bollocks. Mealy mouthed politico bollocks. Only UKIP want to debate the issues that matter to the country. The Tories don't and are actively seeking to avoid the debate.

Don't see too many UKIP debates around health, education, law and order etc etc ! In any event they can say what they want as they will never be in a position to have to keep to their promises !

Conservatives are not shying away from any debate on immigration but why narrow the debate to satisfy UKIP when there are so many other areas of policy to discuss ?

Edited by Willo (03 Apr 2015 11.22am)

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Hoof Hearted 03 Apr 15 11.23am
Quote Percy of Peckham at 03 Apr 2015 11.14am Quote Hoof Hearted at 03 Apr 2015 11.10am Quote Willo at 03 Apr 2015 11.06am Quote Hoof Hearted at 03 Apr 2015 10.48am Farage was right last night..... whilst we remain in the EU there is NOTHING we can do to control immigration. I understand his meesage, however last night I thought he came across as a bit of a goon with his silly faces and theatricals.Certainly NOT Prime Ministerial at all but then again he will never attain such a position. He can of course manage to eat a bacon sandwich without gurning. ...whilst simultaneously gargling a pint of bitter! .... and smoking a fag!
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Hoof Hearted 03 Apr 15 11.23am

Quote Percy of Peckham at 03 Apr 2015 11.14am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 03 Apr 2015 11.10am

Quote Willo at 03 Apr 2015 11.06am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 03 Apr 2015 10.48am

Farage was right last night..... whilst we remain in the EU there is NOTHING we can do to control immigration.

I understand his meesage, however last night I thought he came across as a bit of a goon with his silly faces and theatricals.Certainly NOT Prime Ministerial at all but then again he will never attain such a position.

He can of course manage to eat a bacon sandwich without gurning.

...whilst simultaneously gargling a pint of bitter!

.... and smoking a fag!

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TheJudge 03 Apr 15 11.23am
Quote matt_himself at 03 Apr 2015 2.07am Nigel Farage came out really well. Anyone dismissing his message is deluded. It resonates with people. Miliband and Cameron didn't come out as badly as I thought they would. Sturgeon is a very canny politician. Bennet is a car crash. How anyone can take her seriously is beyond me. UKIP at 22% now according to Comres. Wonderful. Because he is right. Politics and PC aside, some people just can't accept the obvious logic that a towns worth of immigrants a year is putting huge pressure on Housing, services and jobs. They would rather live in a delusion promoted by the left that immigration is a financial boon. Talk about a narrow view. The fact is, they want the ethnic vote and they spout their PC cobblers for that reason only. If I hear the cliche about foreigners holding up the NHS one more time. No one asks why that is the case. I'll tell you. We did not invest in training for Britons and then we didn't pay our hospital staff enough. We took the cheap option and began to import foreign doctors and nurses instead. See, reality is too hard to handle for some.
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03 Apr 15 11.23am

Quote matt_himself at 03 Apr 2015 2.07am

Nigel Farage came out really well. Anyone dismissing his message is deluded. It resonates with people.

Miliband and Cameron didn't come out as badly as I thought they would. Sturgeon is a very canny politician.

Bennet is a car crash. How anyone can take her seriously is beyond me.

UKIP at 22% now according to Comres. Wonderful.

Because he is right. Politics and PC aside, some people just can't accept the obvious logic that a towns worth of immigrants a year is putting huge pressure on Housing, services and jobs. They would rather live in a delusion promoted by the left that immigration is a financial boon. Talk about a narrow view. The fact is, they want the ethnic vote and they spout their PC cobblers for that reason only.
If I hear the cliche about foreigners holding up the NHS one more time.
No one asks why that is the case.
I'll tell you. We did not invest in training for Britons and then we didn't pay our hospital staff enough. We took the cheap option and began to import foreign doctors and nurses instead.

See, reality is too hard to handle for some.

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Hoof Hearted 03 Apr 15 11.29am
Quote Willo at 03 Apr 2015 11.17am Quote matt_himself at 03 Apr 2015 11.08am Also, all of the above is bollocks. Mealy mouthed politico bollocks. Only UKIP want to debate the issues that matter to the country. The Tories don't and are actively seeking to avoid the debate. Don't see too many UKIP debates around health, education, law and order etc etc ! In any event they can say what they want as they will never be in a position to have to keep to their promises ! Conservatives are not shying away from any debate on immigration but why narrow the debate to satisfy UKIP when there are so many other areas of policy to discuss ? Edited by Willo (03 Apr 2015 11.22am) Immigration affects health, education, law and order etc etc! Too many immigrants means GP practices cannot see patients for weeks, A&E depts. at hospitals fail to meet turnaround times, our schools cannot cope with the rising number of pupils, Romanian gangs of pickpockets/shoplifters keep our boys in blue busy, etc etc. Sort out immigration and the rest of "policy" gets sorted too.
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Hoof Hearted 03 Apr 15 11.29am

Quote Willo at 03 Apr 2015 11.17am

Quote matt_himself at 03 Apr 2015 11.08am

Also, all of the above is bollocks. Mealy mouthed politico bollocks. Only UKIP want to debate the issues that matter to the country. The Tories don't and are actively seeking to avoid the debate.

Don't see too many UKIP debates around health, education, law and order etc etc ! In any event they can say what they want as they will never be in a position to have to keep to their promises !

Conservatives are not shying away from any debate on immigration but why narrow the debate to satisfy UKIP when there are so many other areas of policy to discuss ?

Edited by Willo (03 Apr 2015 11.22am)

Immigration affects health, education, law and order etc etc!

Too many immigrants means GP practices cannot see patients for weeks, A&E depts. at hospitals fail to meet turnaround times, our schools cannot cope with the rising number of pupils, Romanian gangs of pickpockets/shoplifters keep our boys in blue busy, etc etc.

Sort out immigration and the rest of "policy" gets sorted too.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Apr 15 11.31am
Someone said to me today that The "Leaders debate" confirmed what we already knew. The choice at the election is between the competence of a Conservative government or the chaos of Ed Miliband propped up by the SNP.This person some while ago had been considering voting UKIP but has changed his mind !
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Apr 15 11.31am

Someone said to me today that The "Leaders debate" confirmed what we already knew. The choice at the election is between the competence of a Conservative government or the chaos of Ed Miliband propped up by the SNP.This person some while ago had been considering voting UKIP but has changed his mind !

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 Apr 15 11.32am
Thank goodness Nigel was there to warn us all about all those foreigners with aids coming over here.
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Shizzlehurst 03 Apr 15 11.32am

Thank goodness Nigel was there to warn us all about all those foreigners with aids coming over here.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Apr 15 11.34am
Quote nickgusset at 03 Apr 2015 11.32am Thank goodness Nigel was there to warn us all about all those foreigners with aids coming over here. I think he said we spend too much on "Foreign Aid" !!!
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Apr 15 11.34am

Quote nickgusset at 03 Apr 2015 11.32am

Thank goodness Nigel was there to warn us all about all those foreigners with aids coming over here.

I think he said we spend too much on "Foreign Aid" !!!

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Midlands Eagle 03 Apr 15 11.37am
Quote Willo at 03 Apr 2015 11.17am Quote matt_himself at 03 Apr 2015 11.08am Also, all of the above is bollocks. Mealy mouthed politico bollocks. Only UKIP want to debate the issues that matter to the country. The Tories don't and are actively seeking to avoid the debate. Don't see too many UKIP debates around health, education, law and order etc etc ! In any event they can say what they want as they will never be in a position to have to keep to their promises ! That isn't necessarily correct as with no party expected to gain an outright majority any of the smaller parties could become kingmakers - at a price
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Quote Willo at 03 Apr 2015 11.17am

Quote matt_himself at 03 Apr 2015 11.08am

Also, all of the above is bollocks. Mealy mouthed politico bollocks. Only UKIP want to debate the issues that matter to the country. The Tories don't and are actively seeking to avoid the debate.

Don't see too many UKIP debates around health, education, law and order etc etc ! In any event they can say what they want as they will never be in a position to have to keep to their promises !

That isn't necessarily correct as with no party expected to gain an outright majority any of the smaller parties could become kingmakers - at a price

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ambrose7 Croydon 03 Apr 15 11.39am
I thought Farage came out pretty well last night. Clever from the start to point out the 6 v 1 position and spoke in quite a refreshing, unrehearsed manner. I absolutely prefer his approach to all of the others. What will stop me voting for him though is his foreign policy. I just fundamentally disagree with his view that we don't have a responsibility to have a foreign aid budget. The current 0.7% target is a ridiculous way to do foreign aid, but his idea of scrapping it really doesn't sit well with me. We obviously have our own problems, but they really don't compare with those in the 3rd world or those who have to rebuild their lives following disasters. 26th January 2010 - Enter Administration 2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough 1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds 7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.
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Croydon 03 Apr 15 11.39am

I thought Farage came out pretty well last night. Clever from the start to point out the 6 v 1 position and spoke in quite a refreshing, unrehearsed manner. I absolutely prefer his approach to all of the others.

What will stop me voting for him though is his foreign policy. I just fundamentally disagree with his view that we don't have a responsibility to have a foreign aid budget. The current 0.7% target is a ridiculous way to do foreign aid, but his idea of scrapping it really doesn't sit well with me.

We obviously have our own problems, but they really don't compare with those in the 3rd world or those who have to rebuild their lives following disasters.

26th January 2010 - Enter Administration
2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough
1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds
7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.

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kevpofcpfc 03 Apr 15 11.42am
Farage and Sturgeon are both fantastic speakers. The Welsh lady came across well,Millibands mannerisms are more like Blairs every time I see him, Cameron looked uncomfortable, not sure debating is his forte.As for the poor lady from the Greens.... I'm none the wiser where my X is going.
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kevpofcpfc

03 Apr 15 11.42am

Farage and Sturgeon are both fantastic speakers. The Welsh lady came across well,Millibands mannerisms are more like Blairs every time I see him, Cameron looked uncomfortable, not sure debating is his forte.As for the poor lady from the Greens....

I'm none the wiser where my X is going.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Apr 15 11.44am
Quote Ian J at 03 Apr 2015 11.37am Quote Willo at 03 Apr 2015 11.17am Quote matt_himself at 03 Apr 2015 11.08am Also, all of the above is bollocks. Mealy mouthed politico bollocks. Only UKIP want to debate the issues that matter to the country. The Tories don't and are actively seeking to avoid the debate. Don't see too many UKIP debates around health, education, law and order etc etc ! In any event they can say what they want as they will never be in a position to have to keep to their promises ! That isn't necessarily correct as with no party expected to gain an outright majority any of the smaller parties could become kingmakers - at a price Indeed but the smaller parties won't need to defend themselves if they are not actually in power.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Apr 15 11.44am

Quote Ian J at 03 Apr 2015 11.37am

Quote Willo at 03 Apr 2015 11.17am

Quote matt_himself at 03 Apr 2015 11.08am

Also, all of the above is bollocks. Mealy mouthed politico bollocks. Only UKIP want to debate the issues that matter to the country. The Tories don't and are actively seeking to avoid the debate.

Don't see too many UKIP debates around health, education, law and order etc etc ! In any event they can say what they want as they will never be in a position to have to keep to their promises !

That isn't necessarily correct as with no party expected to gain an outright majority any of the smaller parties could become kingmakers - at a price

Indeed but the smaller parties won't need to defend themselves if they are not actually in power.

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matt_himself Matataland 03 Apr 15 11.44am
Quote nickgusset at 03 Apr 2015 11.32am Thank goodness Nigel was there to warn us all about all those foreigners with aids coming over here. So you think health tourism is acceptable? You think that people that NHS resource should go to non Britons? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 03 Apr 15 11.44am

Quote nickgusset at 03 Apr 2015 11.32am

Thank goodness Nigel was there to warn us all about all those foreigners with aids coming over here.

So you think health tourism is acceptable? You think that people that NHS resource should go to non Britons?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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