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 kennybrowns leftfoot  Reigate 30 Apr 14 10.04pm |
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Genuine observation here. I'm not overly taken with politics although I do try and take an interest in whats going on. One thing I have noticed, in the last couple of weeks the BBC and others have tried as hard as they can to rip UKIP apart and cast doubt on there credibility but in my opinion it has now got to a stage where it's obsessive and to someone like me, and thousands of others who don't take an avid interest in politics, is there a danger that this persistent attack on them could actually turn people to voting for them??
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Quote kennybrowns leftfoot at 30 Apr 2014 10.04pm
Genuine observation here. I'm not overly taken with politics although I do try and take an interest in whats going on. One thing I have noticed, in the last couple of weeks the BBC and others have tried as hard as they can to rip UKIP apart and cast doubt on there credibility but in my opinion it has now got to a stage where it's obsessive and to someone like me, and thousands of others who don't take an avid interest in politics, is there a danger that this persistent attack on them could actually turn people to voting for them?? Let's hope so, they get my vote.
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| matt_himself Matataland 30 Apr 14 10.31pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 9.38pm
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Quote Kermit8 at 30 Apr 2014 9.05pm
What's all this disingenuous protest vote bollocks? Like attracts like. Just man up and admit it.
George Galloway, Respect and the leftish accompany the radical Islamists. Instead of saying it is true belief sharing, it is a marriage of opportunist convenience at odds with the true beliefs of both sides. Sad really.
You know exactly what I am saying. Bluff won't get you off this. There are many leftish groups that have links with the Islamist groups who have a very different agenda from the right on agenda the left espouses. However, in the leftish world, it appears that this is viewed as inclusivity as opposed to cuddling with extremists. You accuse UKIP of being extremists. I say, leftists associate with extremists as normal discourse and this dangerous association is downplayed by leftists. However, accusing UKIP of extremism is your mantra as this is an easy crutch for you despite hypocrisy of this.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Apr 14 10.49pm |
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Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 10.31pm
Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 9.38pm
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Quote Kermit8 at 30 Apr 2014 9.05pm
What's all this disingenuous protest vote bollocks? Like attracts like. Just man up and admit it.
George Galloway, Respect and the leftish accompany the radical Islamists. Instead of saying it is true belief sharing, it is a marriage of opportunist convenience at odds with the true beliefs of both sides. Sad really.
You know exactly what I am saying. Bluff won't get you off this. There are many leftish groups that have links with the Islamist groups who have a very different agenda from the right on agenda the left espouses. However, in the leftish world, it appears that this is viewed as inclusivity as opposed to cuddling with extremists. You accuse UKIP of being extremists. I say, leftists associate with extremists as normal discourse and this dangerous association is downplayed by leftists. However, accusing UKIP of extremism is your mantra as this is an easy crutch for you despite hypocrisy of this. Then you are wrong. Now stop evading questions. Why is protesting against Labour bad? I look forward to reading your answer in the morning. I'm off to get some sleep. I need my energy so that I can indoctrinate more children with my evil politics tomorrow.
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| Stuk Top half 30 Apr 14 10.53pm |
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Quote kennybrowns leftfoot at 30 Apr 2014 10.04pm
Genuine observation here. I'm not overly taken with politics although I do try and take an interest in whats going on. One thing I have noticed, in the last couple of weeks the BBC and others have tried as hard as they can to rip UKIP apart and cast doubt on there credibility but in my opinion it has now got to a stage where it's obsessive and to someone like me, and thousands of others who don't take an avid interest in politics, is there a danger that this persistent attack on them could actually turn people to voting for them??
It then gives them a good chunk of faux outrage to pump out, should what they're professing happens. There's no airtime filled with the usual outcomes.
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| matt_himself Matataland 30 Apr 14 11.04pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 10.49pm
Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 10.31pm
Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 9.38pm
Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 9.13pm
Quote Kermit8 at 30 Apr 2014 9.05pm
What's all this disingenuous protest vote bollocks? Like attracts like. Just man up and admit it.
George Galloway, Respect and the leftish accompany the radical Islamists. Instead of saying it is true belief sharing, it is a marriage of opportunist convenience at odds with the true beliefs of both sides. Sad really.
You know exactly what I am saying. Bluff won't get you off this. There are many leftish groups that have links with the Islamist groups who have a very different agenda from the right on agenda the left espouses. However, in the leftish world, it appears that this is viewed as inclusivity as opposed to cuddling with extremists. You accuse UKIP of being extremists. I say, leftists associate with extremists as normal discourse and this dangerous association is downplayed by leftists. However, accusing UKIP of extremism is your mantra as this is an easy crutch for you despite hypocrisy of this. Then you are wrong. Now stop evading questions. Why is protesting against Labour bad? I look forward to reading your answer in the morning. I'm off to get some sleep. I need my energy so that I can indoctrinate more children with my evil politics tomorrow.
You have consistently said that you protest against Labour as it is forgetting/forgotten its roots. Coming from a middle class primary school teacher in Chiselhurst, I find that hysterical. However, the point is, aren't you protesting against the Labour Party with your apparent support for TUSC? Isn't that a protest against a mass supported party that has lost your respect? I am talking hypocrisy, dear boy. BTW, I doubt you could fill the head of a goldfish let alone an impressionable child. And the fact that you teach five year olds, somewhat lessons the effect you may have.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Apr 14 11.06pm |
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Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 11.04pm
Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 10.49pm
Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 10.31pm
Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 9.38pm
Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 9.13pm
Quote Kermit8 at 30 Apr 2014 9.05pm
What's all this disingenuous protest vote bollocks? Like attracts like. Just man up and admit it.
George Galloway, Respect and the leftish accompany the radical Islamists. Instead of saying it is true belief sharing, it is a marriage of opportunist convenience at odds with the true beliefs of both sides. Sad really.
You know exactly what I am saying. Bluff won't get you off this. There are many leftish groups that have links with the Islamist groups who have a very different agenda from the right on agenda the left espouses. However, in the leftish world, it appears that this is viewed as inclusivity as opposed to cuddling with extremists. You accuse UKIP of being extremists. I say, leftists associate with extremists as normal discourse and this dangerous association is downplayed by leftists. However, accusing UKIP of extremism is your mantra as this is an easy crutch for you despite hypocrisy of this. Then you are wrong. Now stop evading questions. Why is protesting against Labour bad? I look forward to reading your answer in the morning. I'm off to get some sleep. I need my energy so that I can indoctrinate more children with my evil politics tomorrow.
You have consistently said that you protest against Labour as it is forgetting/forgotten its roots. Coming from a middle class primary school teacher in Chiselhurst, I find that hysterical. However, the point is, aren't you protesting against the Labour Party with your apparent support for TUSC? Isn't that a protest against a mass supported party that has lost your respect? I am talking hypocrisy, dear boy. BTW, I doubt you could fill the head of a goldfish let alone an impressionable child. And the fact that you teach five year olds, somewhat lessons the effect you may have. It's lessens.
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| Stuk Top half 30 Apr 14 11.17pm |
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Congrats on the new job, nick.
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| matt_himself Matataland 30 Apr 14 11.33pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 11.06pm
Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 11.04pm
Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 10.49pm
Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 10.31pm
Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 9.38pm
Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 9.13pm
Quote Kermit8 at 30 Apr 2014 9.05pm
What's all this disingenuous protest vote bollocks? Like attracts like. Just man up and admit it.
George Galloway, Respect and the leftish accompany the radical Islamists. Instead of saying it is true belief sharing, it is a marriage of opportunist convenience at odds with the true beliefs of both sides. Sad really.
You know exactly what I am saying. Bluff won't get you off this. There are many leftish groups that have links with the Islamist groups who have a very different agenda from the right on agenda the left espouses. However, in the leftish world, it appears that this is viewed as inclusivity as opposed to cuddling with extremists. You accuse UKIP of being extremists. I say, leftists associate with extremists as normal discourse and this dangerous association is downplayed by leftists. However, accusing UKIP of extremism is your mantra as this is an easy crutch for you despite hypocrisy of this. Then you are wrong. Now stop evading questions. Why is protesting against Labour bad? I look forward to reading your answer in the morning. I'm off to get some sleep. I need my energy so that I can indoctrinate more children with my evil politics tomorrow.
You have consistently said that you protest against Labour as it is forgetting/forgotten its roots. Coming from a middle class primary school teacher in Chiselhurst, I find that hysterical. However, the point is, aren't you protesting against the Labour Party with your apparent support for TUSC? Isn't that a protest against a mass supported party that has lost your respect? I am talking hypocrisy, dear boy. BTW, I doubt you could fill the head of a goldfish let alone an impressionable child. And the fact that you teach five year olds, somewhat lessons the effect you may have. It's lessens.
Good night and good luck with trying to convert at least one five year old over to the 'perpetual struggle' with your finger paintings of the Bolivar revolution in art class.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Apr 14 11.34pm |
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Quote Stuk at 30 Apr 2014 11.17pm
Congrats on the new job, nick.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Apr 14 11.36pm |
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Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 11.33pm
Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 11.06pm
Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 11.04pm
Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 10.49pm
Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 10.31pm
Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 9.38pm
Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 9.13pm
Quote Kermit8 at 30 Apr 2014 9.05pm
What's all this disingenuous protest vote bollocks? Like attracts like. Just man up and admit it.
George Galloway, Respect and the leftish accompany the radical Islamists. Instead of saying it is true belief sharing, it is a marriage of opportunist convenience at odds with the true beliefs of both sides. Sad really.
You know exactly what I am saying. Bluff won't get you off this. There are many leftish groups that have links with the Islamist groups who have a very different agenda from the right on agenda the left espouses. However, in the leftish world, it appears that this is viewed as inclusivity as opposed to cuddling with extremists. You accuse UKIP of being extremists. I say, leftists associate with extremists as normal discourse and this dangerous association is downplayed by leftists. However, accusing UKIP of extremism is your mantra as this is an easy crutch for you despite hypocrisy of this. Then you are wrong. Now stop evading questions. Why is protesting against Labour bad? I look forward to reading your answer in the morning. I'm off to get some sleep. I need my energy so that I can indoctrinate more children with my evil politics tomorrow.
You have consistently said that you protest against Labour as it is forgetting/forgotten its roots. Coming from a middle class primary school teacher in Chiselhurst, I find that hysterical. However, the point is, aren't you protesting against the Labour Party with your apparent support for TUSC? Isn't that a protest against a mass supported party that has lost your respect? I am talking hypocrisy, dear boy. BTW, I doubt you could fill the head of a goldfish let alone an impressionable child. And the fact that you teach five year olds, somewhat lessons the effect you may have. It's lessens.
Good night and good luck with trying to convert at least one five year old over to the 'perpetual struggle' with your finger paintings of the Bolivar revolution in art class.
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| matt_himself Matataland 30 Apr 14 11.57pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 11.36pm
Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 11.33pm
Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 11.06pm
Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 11.04pm
Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 10.49pm
Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 10.31pm
Quote nickgusset at 30 Apr 2014 9.38pm
Quote matt_himself at 30 Apr 2014 9.13pm
Quote Kermit8 at 30 Apr 2014 9.05pm
What's all this disingenuous protest vote bollocks? Like attracts like. Just man up and admit it.
George Galloway, Respect and the leftish accompany the radical Islamists. Instead of saying it is true belief sharing, it is a marriage of opportunist convenience at odds with the true beliefs of both sides. Sad really.
You know exactly what I am saying. Bluff won't get you off this. There are many leftish groups that have links with the Islamist groups who have a very different agenda from the right on agenda the left espouses. However, in the leftish world, it appears that this is viewed as inclusivity as opposed to cuddling with extremists. You accuse UKIP of being extremists. I say, leftists associate with extremists as normal discourse and this dangerous association is downplayed by leftists. However, accusing UKIP of extremism is your mantra as this is an easy crutch for you despite hypocrisy of this. Then you are wrong. Now stop evading questions. Why is protesting against Labour bad? I look forward to reading your answer in the morning. I'm off to get some sleep. I need my energy so that I can indoctrinate more children with my evil politics tomorrow.
You have consistently said that you protest against Labour as it is forgetting/forgotten its roots. Coming from a middle class primary school teacher in Chiselhurst, I find that hysterical. However, the point is, aren't you protesting against the Labour Party with your apparent support for TUSC? Isn't that a protest against a mass supported party that has lost your respect? I am talking hypocrisy, dear boy. BTW, I doubt you could fill the head of a goldfish let alone an impressionable child. And the fact that you teach five year olds, somewhat lessons the effect you may have. It's lessens.
Good night and good luck with trying to convert at least one five year old over to the 'perpetual struggle' with your finger paintings of the Bolivar revolution in art class.
For the record Nick, I believed that the aspergers and autistic references you used in the other post were directed at me and bang out of order and I wanted to stop that. Regardless of what you said about your eldest after posting the comments, and believe me I salute a parent who is dealing with a child with aspergers, I felt you were provoking me on a distasteful level and therefore I killed the conversation from my side. I am not backing away from a debate on why not protest against the Labour Party but that was not my intention to raise that as a debate. You are, in my mind deliberately missing the point. You claimed earlier in this thread 'what is it with this protest vote thing', or words to that effect. You are asking why people protest against the mass supported parties of their own hue and you are doing the same with Labour. If you had balls, by insinuation, wouldn't you be fighting for a 'socialist' Labour Party, btw read about that on the TUSC website, rather than supporting protest groups such as TUSC?
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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