This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.
Register | Edit Profile | Subscriptions | Forum Rules | Log In
moylerg Cofton Hackett, Worcestershire 11 Feb 15 7.51am | |
---|---|
Quote Catfish at 11 Feb 2015 7.47am
260,000 people a year adding to the population is hardly "statistically insignificant".
Most certainly not European. |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
npn Crowborough 11 Feb 15 8.19am | |
---|---|
Quote moylerg at 11 Feb 2015 7.51am
Quote Catfish at 11 Feb 2015 7.47am
260,000 people a year adding to the population is hardly "statistically insignificant".
You may believe imigration is beneficial, which is fine, but you can't realistically claim it's insignificant
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
crystal balls The Garden of Earthly Delights 11 Feb 15 8.29am | |
---|---|
Quote npn at 11 Feb 2015 8.19am
Quote moylerg at 11 Feb 2015 7.51am
Quote Catfish at 11 Feb 2015 7.47am
260,000 people a year adding to the population is hardly "statistically insignificant".
You may believe imigration is beneficial, which is fine, but you can't realistically claim it's insignificant An annual figure, in the sense that it occurred in a 12 month period, but it is not a fixed figure; in future growth may be at a higher or lower rate. Over 10 years it is impossible to predict. Incidentally, the world population is growing at a faster rate than 0.5% annually, why should the UK be exempt from that? People have to live somewhere, and the majority of those coming to the UK tend to be better educated on average than those remaining in their homelands. There are positives to people coming to the UK, though sections of the media choose to only look at (and exaggerate) the downside.
I used to be immortal |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 11 Feb 15 9.36am | |
---|---|
Quote Pussay Patrol at 20 Feb 2013 9.18pm
Here's a suggestion WPC. Go down to just about every A road in and around London where they have vehicle stop checks and hoards of coppers in hi-vis jackets, tell them to stop treating ordinary motorists as criminals just because their seatbelts a bit sticky or they have a break light missing and go and do some proper policing.... Short of officers - my arse.... Sounds like they are all breaking the law to me.
"Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support." |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
npn Crowborough 11 Feb 15 9.50am | |
---|---|
Quote crystal balls at 11 Feb 2015 8.29am
Quote npn at 11 Feb 2015 8.19am
Quote moylerg at 11 Feb 2015 7.51am
Quote Catfish at 11 Feb 2015 7.47am
260,000 people a year adding to the population is hardly "statistically insignificant".
You may believe imigration is beneficial, which is fine, but you can't realistically claim it's insignificant An annual figure, in the sense that it occurred in a 12 month period, but it is not a fixed figure; in future growth may be at a higher or lower rate. Over 10 years it is impossible to predict. Incidentally, the world population is growing at a faster rate than 0.5% annually, why should the UK be exempt from that? People have to live somewhere, and the majority of those coming to the UK tend to be better educated on average than those remaining in their homelands. There are positives to people coming to the UK, though sections of the media choose to only look at (and exaggerate) the downside.
Frank, honest, and open discussion is required, of both the benefits and the drawbacks. That discussion may very well come to the conclusion that the numbers are sustainable, or even that they could be increased, but avoiding the discussion helps nobody. Personally, I'm all for imigration when it comprises skilled people, and I favour a points based system, but that's a different debate
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
TheJudge 11 Feb 15 6.42pm | |
---|---|
Quote npn at 11 Feb 2015 9.50am
Quote crystal balls at 11 Feb 2015 8.29am
Quote npn at 11 Feb 2015 8.19am
Quote moylerg at 11 Feb 2015 7.51am
Quote Catfish at 11 Feb 2015 7.47am
260,000 people a year adding to the population is hardly "statistically insignificant".
You may believe imigration is beneficial, which is fine, but you can't realistically claim it's insignificant An annual figure, in the sense that it occurred in a 12 month period, but it is not a fixed figure; in future growth may be at a higher or lower rate. Over 10 years it is impossible to predict. Incidentally, the world population is growing at a faster rate than 0.5% annually, why should the UK be exempt from that? People have to live somewhere, and the majority of those coming to the UK tend to be better educated on average than those remaining in their homelands. There are positives to people coming to the UK, though sections of the media choose to only look at (and exaggerate) the downside.
Frank, honest, and open discussion is required, of both the benefits and the drawbacks. That discussion may very well come to the conclusion that the numbers are sustainable, or even that they could be increased, but avoiding the discussion helps nobody. Personally, I'm all for imigration when it comprises skilled people, and I favour a points based system, but that's a different debate
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
moylerg Cofton Hackett, Worcestershire 11 Feb 15 6.53pm | |
---|---|
Quote npn at 11 Feb 2015 9.50am
Quote crystal balls at 11 Feb 2015 8.29am
Quote npn at 11 Feb 2015 8.19am
Quote moylerg at 11 Feb 2015 7.51am
Quote Catfish at 11 Feb 2015 7.47am
260,000 people a year adding to the population is hardly "statistically insignificant".
You may believe imigration is beneficial, which is fine, but you can't realistically claim it's insignificant An annual figure, in the sense that it occurred in a 12 month period, but it is not a fixed figure; in future growth may be at a higher or lower rate. Over 10 years it is impossible to predict. Incidentally, the world population is growing at a faster rate than 0.5% annually, why should the UK be exempt from that? People have to live somewhere, and the majority of those coming to the UK tend to be better educated on average than those remaining in their homelands. There are positives to people coming to the UK, though sections of the media choose to only look at (and exaggerate) the downside.
Frank, honest, and open discussion is required, of both the benefits and the drawbacks. That discussion may very well come to the conclusion that the numbers are sustainable, or even that they could be increased, but avoiding the discussion helps nobody. Personally, I'm all for imigration when it comprises skilled people, and I favour a points based system, but that's a different debate Significant yes to you or I, but In statistical terms, they are insignificant. What that really means is that in terms of numbers in the population they are not that high. That said, in terms of the economic contribution, extremely positive overall. The issue is surely that when someone knows of an immigrant claiming benefits, then they all are! I live in Birmingham, having lived in Perth WA for almost 4-years, and it is such a mixed race city to come back to, it was a shock at first! How many are immigrants, and of what generation, who knows! The fact is that typically immigrants serve the UK well and have for the last century and more. My in laws are immigrants, from India in the 50s. Worked in iron foundries post wartime and worked hard for themselves and the country. Different times now, differing immigrant nationalities, but, the same potential work ethic. Edited by moylerg (11 Feb 2015 6.54pm)
Most certainly not European. |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Mar 15 7.11pm | |
---|---|
400,000 to be denied adult education due to cuts according to this...
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Catfish Burgess Hill 17 Mar 15 7.54pm | |
---|---|
It has become a standard thing to say that immigration is economically a good thng and that we are better off as a result of immgration over the last 15-20 years. Really?
Yes, I am an agent of Satan but my duties are largely ceremonial |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
johnfirewall 17 Mar 15 9.07pm | |
---|---|
His carer had probably just departed from a 3 second visit after placing a boiled egg in his hand for his lunch. (True story and I'm not even sure the egg was boiled)
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Dweeb East London 18 Mar 15 2.01am | |
---|---|
It is notable that no one from teh government is denying that 60% of teh cuts are yet to come. So if you think things are bad now just wait...
Taking the bungy jump since 1964. Never to see John Jackson in a shirt again Sorry to see Lee Hills go, did we ever see Alex Marrow? We did January 2013 |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
General 18 Mar 15 8.51am | |
---|---|
Electrical industry changed/screwed by these amazingly hard working/sneaky people. Go from earning good money to struggling to find work that is not somehow influenced by the ways these workers accept payment (umbrella/self employed) and/or conditions. Oh and this is exactly what the people above us want. Dont question the politicians/bankers who screw us over billions or shag boys go for the poor bozo Propaganda in full effect congrats to the rulers of our life n world u done great
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Registration is now on our new message board
To login with your existing username you will need to convert your account over to the new message board.
All images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2024 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
Web Design by Guntrisoft Ltd.