Who has suggested otherwise? We are now seeing a glimmer of reality.

The USA forcing Israel and the Arab world forcing Hamas.

We could now be at the point where the pressure becomes intense.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

No, but as the Hamas “tribe” extends well beyond Gaza and Hamas it is pointless expecting that eliminating Hamas in Gaza solves the problem. The attempt just kills thousands, destroys any remaining sympathy for Israel with many people, spreads the conflict and increases hatred.

Peace may not be possible but conflict can be contained and managed.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I'm with Kirk.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

The end game. The implementation of which started back in around 2008-9, probably about the tme of the big finanical crash. I am convinced of it.

I see it in the following stages.

1. The destablisation of Europe which began with the overthrow of Gaddafi thereby opening up Libya for the mass-movement of migrants into Europe, supported by funding of NGO's to both effect this movement and then put pressure on Governments.

2. Equating criticism of Israel with Anti-Semitism thereby creating the kind of division we see in the West now which acts by way of creating a fog/fear amongst people who might be influential due to disproportionate Jewish/Zionist funding for a range of organisations. One aspect of this has been what happened to students at top US universities who did not fall into line behind the Israel Good/Palastine bad narrative. Not only were job offers removed but they were targetted in via this....

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Which if you are as sad/fasincated by the politics of the manifestation of real power, then this was an incredible insight into the mentality at play here.

3. The campaign to see a mass movement of Palastinians relocated from both Gaza and the West Bank.

With this last part where I am not sure how it will play out. I suspect that it might not happen that quickly, because otherwise it just looks like Israel is getting its own way and they must recognize that the backlash against them is barely being kept a lid on as it it. So I reckon a very unsteady peace deal of some kind will be arrived at. And then a very high profile individual will launch a campaign, which will possibly be decried as beng Anti-Semetic, in which it is argued that the kindest thing to do for the Palestinians is to 'save' them from the barbaric Jews and pressure will then mount. It will be seen as a humanitarian program, and only undertaken because the Israelis are barbarians who cannot be reasoned with. Maybe the Middle Eastern Oil states offering to fund it, whilst not taking in anybody themselves.

Along with Israel offering Jews in Europe the chance to return to the 'safety' of their motherland in the face of all those hostile Arabs moving West.

But all of that merely speculation but suspect it will be along those lines.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

One of several hate sermons preached in UK mosques recently.

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There is a march against antisemitism this Sunday in London. It could of course be a prime target for the psychopaths who support Hamas.

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It's very interesting how many on the right are now perfectly happy to weaponise the accusation of anti-semitism, after years of criticising the left's similar approach to accusing people of racism.