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Spiderman Horsham 17 Dec 20 4.39pm
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle Southgate is a puppet and will say whatever the FA tell him 100% this
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Spiderman

Horsham 17 Dec 20 4.39pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Southgate is a puppet and will say whatever the FA tell him

100% this

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Spiderman Horsham 17 Dec 20 4.42pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 If somebody who spends most days continuously persisting with long, waffling, argumentative, incoherent posts for the sake of attention seeking says that they are 'not going to bother' articulating their disagreement with your statement it can only be the highest possible acknowledgement of validity. You forgot to say getting increasingly rude towards posters who don’t conform to his view of the world
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Horsham 17 Dec 20 4.42pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

If somebody who spends most days continuously persisting with long, waffling, argumentative, incoherent posts for the sake of attention seeking says that they are 'not going to bother' articulating their disagreement with your statement it can only be the highest possible acknowledgement of validity.

You forgot to say getting increasingly rude towards posters who don’t conform to his view of the world

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Dec 20 12.09am
Originally posted by Nicholas91 If somebody who spends most days continuously persisting with long, waffling, argumentative, incoherent posts for the sake of attention seeking says that they are 'not going to bother' articulating their disagreement with your statement it can only be the highest possible acknowledgement of validity. There is not an ounce of validity in your analogy. I kind of hoped you would be able to see why yourself. It's really not that difficult but here it is. Your hypothetical "National Front" and nazi style salute would, if attempted, be seen by everyone for what it was, as it would be seen in the context of THIS situation. If it had happened without the existence of the "black lives matter" gestures, and the subsequent attempts to link them to the BLM political movement, then you would have a perfectly valid point. One that actually supports the one that says there is no connection between "black lives matter" gestures by the players and the politics of the BLM organisation. But it cannot so happen. The players are making the gesture so that context exists and cannot be brushed aside just because you want to. The players and FA have made their position very clear. Booing them taking the knee is disrespecting the players and NOT protesting about a political movement. Those that do it, or defend those who do, should be ashamed of themselves. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 18 Dec 20 12.09am

Originally posted by Nicholas91

There is not an ounce of validity in your analogy. I kind of hoped you would be able to see why yourself. It's really not that difficult but here it is.

Your hypothetical "National Front" and nazi style salute would, if attempted, be seen by everyone for what it was, as it would be seen in the context of THIS situation.

If it had happened without the existence of the "black lives matter" gestures, and the subsequent attempts to link them to the BLM political movement, then you would have a perfectly valid point. One that actually supports the one that says there is no connection between "black lives matter" gestures by the players and the politics of the BLM organisation.

But it cannot so happen. The players are making the gesture so that context exists and cannot be brushed aside just because you want to. The players and FA have made their position very clear.

Booing them taking the knee is disrespecting the players and NOT protesting about a political movement. Those that do it, or defend those who do, should be ashamed of themselves.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 18 Dec 20 12.32am
And of course the fact the players had BLM on their shirts and grounds had large signs reading BLM was purely to reflect support for a message rather than any organisation with the initials BLM. Understandable since there are no other letters they could have used.
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Teddy Eagle

18 Dec 20 12.32am

And of course the fact the players had BLM on their shirts and grounds had large signs reading BLM was purely to reflect support for a message rather than any organisation with the initials BLM.
Understandable since there are no other letters they could have used.

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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 18 Dec 20 8.17am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle And of course the fact the players had BLM on their shirts and grounds had large signs reading BLM was purely to reflect support for a message rather than any organisation with the initials BLM. Understandable since there are no other letters they could have used. YAWN ... maybe? Denial is not just a river in Egypt
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Eton Mess 18 Dec 20 8.17am

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

YAWN ... maybe?

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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Badger11 Beckenham 18 Dec 20 8.20am
Originally posted by Henry of Peckham YAWN ... maybe? How about VSP Virtue Signalling Prima-donna's One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 18 Dec 20 8.20am

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

YAWN ... maybe?

How about VSP

Virtue Signalling Prima-donna's

One more point

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Eaglecoops CR3 18 Dec 20 8.37am
How about FAR, footballers against racism. Job specific and clear as a bell as to what it’s about. Something they can all sign up to and agree on. But get those political BLM statements out of sport and stop that subservient kneeling gesture by hypocritical overpaid sportsmen.
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Eaglecoops

CR3 18 Dec 20 8.37am

How about FAR, footballers against racism. Job specific and clear as a bell as to what it’s about. Something they can all sign up to and agree on. But get those political BLM statements out of sport and stop that subservient kneeling gesture by hypocritical overpaid sportsmen.

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 18 Dec 20 9.45am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle There is not an ounce of validity in your analogy. I kind of hoped you would be able to see why yourself. It's really not that difficult but here it is. Your hypothetical "National Front" and nazi style salute would, if attempted, be seen by everyone for what it was, as it would be seen in the context of THIS situation. If it had happened without the existence of the "black lives matter" gestures, and the subsequent attempts to link them to the BLM political movement, then you would have a perfectly valid point. One that actually supports the one that says there is no connection between "black lives matter" gestures by the players and the politics of the BLM organisation. But it cannot so happen. The players are making the gesture so that context exists and cannot be brushed aside just because you want to. The players and FA have made their position very clear. Booing them taking the knee is disrespecting the players and NOT protesting about a political movement. Those that do it, or defend those who do, should be ashamed of themselves. Astounding. That post is nonsense. You remind me of a 4 year old hysterically distraught over a situation they don't comprehend, only knowing they are upset. I would attempt a rebuttal but you've rambled incoherently again, like the 4 year old would. It is literal nonsense I cannot emphasise that enough. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 18 Dec 20 9.45am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There is not an ounce of validity in your analogy. I kind of hoped you would be able to see why yourself. It's really not that difficult but here it is.

Your hypothetical "National Front" and nazi style salute would, if attempted, be seen by everyone for what it was, as it would be seen in the context of THIS situation.

But it cannot so happen. The players are making the gesture so that context exists and cannot be brushed aside just because you want to. The players and FA have made their position very clear.

Booing them taking the knee is disrespecting the players and NOT protesting about a political movement. Those that do it, or defend those who do, should be ashamed of themselves.

Astounding.

That post is nonsense. You remind me of a 4 year old hysterically distraught over a situation they don't comprehend, only knowing they are upset. I would attempt a rebuttal but you've rambled incoherently again, like the 4 year old would. It is literal nonsense I cannot emphasise that enough.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 18 Dec 20 9.47am
Out of interest, if the BLM knee pre-match morphed into some other form of solidarity towards racial equality, how would people feel about it here? Pleased? Happy? Or is this racism being shoved down throats again? La la la your mum
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SE25 / Ibiza 18 Dec 20 9.47am

Out of interest, if the BLM knee pre-match morphed into some other form of solidarity towards racial equality, how would people feel about it here?

Pleased? Happy? Or is this racism being shoved down throats again?

La la la your mum

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 18 Dec 20 9.54am
Originally posted by madcap_v2 Out of interest, if the BLM knee pre-match morphed into some other form of solidarity towards racial equality, how would people feel about it here? Pleased? Happy? Or is this racism being shoved down throats again? As a one off, I don’t think people would mind. The fact it’s become of the pre match ritual is what p@sses people off. BLM does not promote equality, it’s meant to make white people feel guilty about their forefathers past. Maybe if we also had a white lives matter protest, for all white people killed by black knife crime or a schoolgirls lives matter for all the hundreds of children raped by Asian gangs but we don’t. "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 18 Dec 20 9.54am

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Out of interest, if the BLM knee pre-match morphed into some other form of solidarity towards racial equality, how would people feel about it here?

Pleased? Happy? Or is this racism being shoved down throats again?

As a one off, I don’t think people would mind.

The fact it’s become of the pre match ritual is what p@sses people off.
BLM does not promote equality, it’s meant to make white people feel guilty about their forefathers past.

Maybe if we also had a white lives matter protest, for all white people killed by black knife crime or a schoolgirls lives matter for all the hundreds of children raped by Asian gangs but we don’t.

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Dec 20 10.00am
Originally posted by madcap_v2 Out of interest, if the BLM knee pre-match morphed into some other form of solidarity towards racial equality, how would people feel about it here? Pleased? Happy? Or is this racism being shoved down throats again? We live in a country where virtue signalling and identity politics have gained a stranglehold over what we can write, view and indeed think.Preaching to the multitudes has taken hold.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Dec 20 10.00am

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Out of interest, if the BLM knee pre-match morphed into some other form of solidarity towards racial equality, how would people feel about it here?

Pleased? Happy? Or is this racism being shoved down throats again?

We live in a country where virtue signalling and identity politics have gained a stranglehold over what we can write, view and indeed think.Preaching to the multitudes has taken hold.

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Badger11 Beckenham 18 Dec 20 10.07am
Originally posted by madcap_v2 Out of interest, if the BLM knee pre-match morphed into some other form of solidarity towards racial equality, how would people feel about it here? Pleased? Happy? Or is this racism being shoved down throats again? I think professional football is a success story when it comes to integration and equality, yes it has a murky past but I am talking about now. I have no problem with footballers campaigning if that's what they believe in but do it outside of the match as Marcus Rashford has done. I also have no problem with footballers walking off the pitch in protest if they are racially abused by the crowd although that wont happen here more likely in Europe. Making gestures at every game is pointless. kick Out has done a lot of good in the schools the players should get behind that campaign if there are things that should be done better by Kick it our or its needs more money then the players should push for that rather than virtue signalling. This reminds me of Edward VIII in the Welsh mining village when the press heard him murmur "something most be done". He wasn't going to do anything about it but apparently if you are rich and a high profile figure making a pointless gesture gets the job done, NOT. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 18 Dec 20 10.07am

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Out of interest, if the BLM knee pre-match morphed into some other form of solidarity towards racial equality, how would people feel about it here?

Pleased? Happy? Or is this racism being shoved down throats again?

I think professional football is a success story when it comes to integration and equality, yes it has a murky past but I am talking about now.

I have no problem with footballers campaigning if that's what they believe in but do it outside of the match as Marcus Rashford has done.

I also have no problem with footballers walking off the pitch in protest if they are racially abused by the crowd although that wont happen here more likely in Europe.

Making gestures at every game is pointless. kick Out has done a lot of good in the schools the players should get behind that campaign if there are things that should be done better by Kick it our or its needs more money then the players should push for that rather than virtue signalling.

This reminds me of Edward VIII in the Welsh mining village when the press heard him murmur "something most be done". He wasn't going to do anything about it but apparently if you are rich and a high profile figure making a pointless gesture gets the job done, NOT.

One more point

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