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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Jan 18 12.44pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Perhaps your gullibility is more incredible.

How so. The bloke also watches Fox news 17 hours a day so he can't do both.

But with Trump being Trump this parody doesn't actually seem that far fetched.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Jan 18 12.52pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

How so. The bloke also watches Fox news 17 hours a day so he can't do both.

But with Trump being Trump this parody doesn't actually seem that far fetched.


Well, from what I've read so far the book is by an obvious hack looking to sell sweets to children....in other words giving people like you what you want.

And as we know....truth to an activist is just additionally nice rather than central.

What I would say though is that I don't agree that Trump is right to look to ban this book.....also he also displays his hypocrisy by calling the author a liar as he has no issues with lies that suit him.

So in essence he's getting what he gives out back.

But the tone of all this isn't serious and shouldn't be taken seriously......maybe there is some truth in it...we will see I guess.

I would certainly be interested in reading more serious books on the whole Trump pre and presidential experience once it's all done.....but not a tabloid hack style book.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2018 12.59pm)

 


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wordup Flag 05 Jan 18 1.16pm

The author is said to have taped many of these interviews, so in the aftermath of this presidential car crash it may be good to look back at what people in the eye of the storm had to say about the Carry On 'Presidenting' years.

Despite what he says now, it was no news to Trump that this guy was conducting interviews. He was invited to. Trump suffers from affluenza and narcissism and so it never would've occurred to him that this book would be anything but a arse kissing exercise.

Edited by wordup (05 Jan 2018 1.33pm)

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Jan 18 1.32pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Here's some actual reality and thinking about the more pro-gun lobby after Sandy Hook and the same attitude with other heinous gun mass murders over there...Roughly three-quarters (77%) of gun owners who say they belong to the NRA are Republicans or lean Republican, while only 20% are Democrats or lean Democratic. PewResearch


Not quite the 50/50 split ethically you would like.

Edited by Kermit8 (05 Jan 2018 12.13pm)

That's a bit reductionist isn't it? America is a 'gun culture' country.

While I am not pro-gun...all things being equal...as there are exceptions in my view. While I'm not pro-gun I hardly think that simply being in the NRA is a statement upon the ethics of a person.

For example, Mogg isn't 'pro-gun' and you called him an extremist on here.

When I talk about both democrats and republicans having awful ethics I guess I'm talking about their activists and politicians (with exceptions)......If even if someone told me they were a democrat or a republican politican I'm not so child-like as to regard that as an automatic statement on their ethics. I'm not in the media, technology or educational institutions hiring someone.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2018 1.34pm)

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 05 Jan 18 1.40pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

That's a bit reductionist isn't it? America is a 'gun culture' country.

While I am not pro-gun...all things being equal...as there are exceptions in my view. While I'm not pro-gun I hardly think that simply being in the NRA is a statement upon the ethics of a person.

For example, Mogg isn't 'pro-gun' and you called him an extremist on here.

When I talk about both democrats and republicans having awful ethics I guess I'm talking about their activists and politicians (with exceptions)......If even if someone told me they were a democrat or a republican politican I'm not so child-like as to regard that as an automatic statement on their ethics. I'm not in the media, technology or educational institutions hiring someone.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2018 1.34pm)

I said a fundamentalist, which he is proudly and unashamedly, not an extremist. Nawty Stirling.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Jan 18 1.45pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

I said a fundamentalist, which he is proudly and unashamedly, not an extremist. Nawty Stirling.

That's what I thought you said but I'm happy to be corrected.

It doesn't change the point though. I could choose many other examples of people you don't like who are anti gun.

I know pro gun Americans brought up in that culture who are good people...we disagree on this issue but it's understandable. Being in a gun club isn't a statement on a person's character.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

That's what I thought you said but I'm happy to be corrected.

It doesn't change the point though. I could choose many other examples of people you don't like who are anti gun.

I know pro gun Americans brought up in that culture who are good people...we disagree on this issue but it's understandable. Being in a gun club isn't a statement on a person's character.

They would be wise to very strongly reform not give up guns totally. Be a bit more like here. Stricter. Good people will understand that.

The 400,000 to be shot dead over the next 10-12 years in the US will wish that they had. Especially the kids.

 


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Originally posted by Kermit8

They would be wise to very strongly reform not give up guns totally. Be a bit more like here. Stricter. Good people will understand that.

The 400,000 to be shot dead over the next 10-12 years in the US will wish that they had. Especially the kids.


This is very simple to say.....but you can't go from having around 310 million and probably over that amount of guns in the US to being like us....or even a bit like us.

Unless you are living in a gated area that's protected....then not having a gun is taking a far higher risk than for us here.

Can you imagine the free for all the criminals would have in the US if non criminals gave up all their guns.

But is a country with a 'gun culture' better than one without one?.....it's not even an argument....the statistics are there for the fair minded to view.

 


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Originally posted by Kermit8

They would be wise to very strongly reform not give up guns totally. Be a bit more like here. Stricter. Good people will understand that.

The 400,000 to be shot dead over the next 10-12 years in the US will wish that they had. Especially the kids.

Oh and how are you gonna do that?

 

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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Oh and how are you gonna do that?

Amnesties, law changes, severe punishments for transgressors, and ban the sale of bullets to everyone who doesn't actually need a gun for work nor for allowed, legal recreation.

For any other sane country in The West it would be/is doable but as it's the U.S...yep, you are right. Impossible.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 05 Jan 18 2.19pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


This is very simple to say.....but you can't go from having around 310 million and probably over that amount of guns in the US to being like us....or even a bit like us.

Unless you are living in a gated area that's protected....then not having a gun is taking a far higher risk than for us here.

Can you imagine the free for all the criminals would have in the US if non criminals gave up all their guns.

But is a country with a 'gun culture' better than one without one?.....it's not even an argument....the statistics are there for the fair minded to view.

You could if all under 12's were brought up with the attitude that guns are only for cops and farmers and sports and illegal otherwise and when they grow up they brought up their children to believe the same and all the while reinforced with new strict gun laws.

It could all be very different in 30-40 years or less and with each passing generation.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 05 Jan 18 2.20pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


This is very simple to say.....but you can't go from having around 310 million and probably over that amount of guns in the US to being like us....or even a bit like us.

Unless you are living in a gated area that's protected....then not having a gun is taking a far higher risk than for us here.

Can you imagine the free for all the criminals would have in the US if non criminals gave up all their guns.

But is a country with a 'gun culture' better than one without one?.....it's not even an argument....the statistics are there for the fair minded to view.

You could if all under 12's were brought up via school education with the attitude that guns are only for cops and farmers and sports and illegal otherwise and when they grow up they brought up their children to believe the same and all the while reinforced with new strict gun laws.

It could all be very different in 30-40 years or less and with each passing generation.

 


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