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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 28 Sep 15 10.08pm

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I've never understood the denigration of someone because they held similar views to a previous political figure. 'Trotskyite, Marxist', or 'Thatcherite'. But hey, easier to sneer that someone is a 'Trotskyite throwback' or 'out of touch Thatcherite' than actually consider their policies.

It would appear that this Labour figure HAS considered Corbyn's policies and formulated a judgement accordingly.



McDonnell has assembled a team of top economic advisors. Gideon has aa 2:11 in something non economic. I know who I'd trust more.

And I know who I trust more !



You trust those who take from those that need it most. You trust those that are increasing the deficit.


And Labour want to bring in thousands of "Refugees" and house them before the people already here and needing housing.

Who's taking from the ones who need it more.

Well the Conservatives want to being in 20,000 before the next election, and UKIPs Nigel Farage also supports taking in of refuges.


 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 28 Sep 15 10.10pm

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I've never understood the denigration of someone because they held similar views to a previous political figure. 'Trotskyite, Marxist', or 'Thatcherite'. But hey, easier to sneer that someone is a 'Trotskyite throwback' or 'out of touch Thatcherite' than actually consider their policies.

It would appear that this Labour figure HAS considered Corbyn's policies and formulated a judgement accordingly.



McDonnell has assembled a team of top economic advisors. Gideon has aa 2:11 in something non economic. I know who I'd trust more.

And I know who I trust more !



You trust those who take from those that need it most. You trust those that are increasing the deficit.


The Shadow Chancellor said to the Guardian, as per previous post, that he would vote for the Tories Fiscal Charter. He also said he would reject austerity, increase spending yet reduce the deficit.

As I asked yesterday, how will this happen? At face value, it doesn't appear to add up.

Increased taxation I believe is their idea. That rather than just take it from the people most dependent on government services, the cost would be born across the spectrum of society, even including companies that avoid paying corporation tax.


 


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I've never understood the denigration of someone because they held similar views to a previous political figure. 'Trotskyite, Marxist', or 'Thatcherite'. But hey, easier to sneer that someone is a 'Trotskyite throwback' or 'out of touch Thatcherite' than actually consider their policies.

It would appear that this Labour figure HAS considered Corbyn's policies and formulated a judgement accordingly.



McDonnell has assembled a team of top economic advisors. Gideon has aa 2:11 in something non economic. I know who I'd trust more.

And I know who I trust more !



You trust those who take from those that need it most. You trust those that are increasing the deficit.


And Labour want to bring in thousands of "Refugees" and house them before the people already here and needing housing.

Who's taking from the ones who need it more.

Well the Conservatives want to being in 20,000 before the next election, and UKIPs Nigel Farage also supports taking in of refuges.



Not saying there is anything wrong with it Jamie,just look after the needy here first.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 28 Sep 15 10.13pm

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I fully support Labour going back to more left wing ideas.

As one Labour MP said Labour under Corbyn are an "Early 80s Trotskyite tribute act" or words to this effect.


Edited by Willo (28 Sep 2015 6.08pm)

Clearly one who'd never had any experience of Trotsky...

 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 Sep 2015 10.13pm

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Quote Stirlingsays at 28 Sep 2015 6.00pm

I fully support Labour going back to more left wing ideas.

As one Labour MP said Labour under Corbyn are an "Early 80s Trotskyite tribute act" or words to this effect.


Edited by Willo (28 Sep 2015 6.08pm)

Clearly one who'd never had any experience of Trotsky...

Funny how Trotsky's name is so casually thrown about. He seems to worry and obsess Stalinists and Conservatives in equal measure.


Edited by sydtheeagle (28 Sep 2015 10.16pm)

 


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I fully support Labour going back to more left wing ideas.

As one Labour MP said Labour under Corbyn are an "Early 80s Trotskyite tribute act" or words to this effect.


Edited by Willo (28 Sep 2015 6.08pm)

Clearly one who'd never had any experience of Trotsky...

Funny how Trotsky's name is so casually thrown about. He seems to worry and obsess Stalinists and Conservatives in equal measure.


Edited by sydtheeagle (28 Sep 2015 10.16pm)

It wasn't a Conservative who mentioned Trotsky !

The notion that Trotsky somehow worries or obsesses Conservatives is unadulterated hogwash. Same for Corbyn !

Anyway, I have better ways of spending my time than passing comment about the "Comrade" and his band of 'Lefties'. Don't they say a democracy need a strong opposition ..... !

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I fully support Labour going back to more left wing ideas.

As one Labour MP said Labour under Corbyn are an "Early 80s Trotskyite tribute act" or words to this effect.


Edited by Willo (28 Sep 2015 6.08pm)

Clearly one who'd never had any experience of Trotsky...

Funny how Trotsky's name is so casually thrown about. He seems to worry and obsess Stalinists and Conservatives in equal measure.


Edited by sydtheeagle (28 Sep 2015 10.16pm)

It wasn't a Conservative who mentioned Trotsky !

The notion that Trotsky somehow worries or obsesses Conservatives is unadulterated hogwash.

I think Syd must of had an icepick, that made his ears burn!!

 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 Sep 2015 10.10pm

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Quote leifandersonshair at 28 Sep 2015 6.51pm

I've never understood the denigration of someone because they held similar views to a previous political figure. 'Trotskyite, Marxist', or 'Thatcherite'. But hey, easier to sneer that someone is a 'Trotskyite throwback' or 'out of touch Thatcherite' than actually consider their policies.

It would appear that this Labour figure HAS considered Corbyn's policies and formulated a judgement accordingly.



McDonnell has assembled a team of top economic advisors. Gideon has aa 2:11 in something non economic. I know who I'd trust more.

And I know who I trust more !



You trust those who take from those that need it most. You trust those that are increasing the deficit.


The Shadow Chancellor said to the Guardian, as per previous post, that he would vote for the Tories Fiscal Charter. He also said he would reject austerity, increase spending yet reduce the deficit.

As I asked yesterday, how will this happen? At face value, it doesn't appear to add up.

Increased taxation I believe is their idea. That rather than just take it from the people most dependent on government services, the cost would be born across the spectrum of society, even including companies that avoid paying corporation tax.


Firstly, you don't need to answer Gusset's questions. He seems perfectly capable of speaking for himself and whilst you maybe a Mod, this is not (yet) called JamieTalk and it would be nice if someone else answered questions every now and again.

Secondly, the tax thing, if that is Labour policy, will never happen. Companies will go offshore or leave the UK although if tax goes up. Foreign investment will dry up. Jobs will be lost. Therefore there will be more on benefits and Britain will be a spiralling economy like Italy or Spain. The wealthy will offshore. This will mean increased borrowing and an increased deficit. Any idiot with half a brain immersed in reality can see that.

And all this emotive clap trap about 'taking from the most dependent' rhetoric, why don't you, and the left, actually try and focus on a positive vision for the 'new politics' (I.e., rehashing politics that put Labour in opposition for 18 years) rather than the typical Tory bashing nonsense your lot spew relentlessly seemingly because they have no other message?

 


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Quote Willo at 28 Sep 2015 7.57pm

Quote nickgusset at 28 Sep 2015 7.50pm

Quote Willo at 28 Sep 2015 6.59pm

Quote leifandersonshair at 28 Sep 2015 6.51pm

I've never understood the denigration of someone because they held similar views to a previous political figure. 'Trotskyite, Marxist', or 'Thatcherite'. But hey, easier to sneer that someone is a 'Trotskyite throwback' or 'out of touch Thatcherite' than actually consider their policies.

It would appear that this Labour figure HAS considered Corbyn's policies and formulated a judgement accordingly.



McDonnell has assembled a team of top economic advisors. Gideon has aa 2:11 in something non economic. I know who I'd trust more.

And I know who I trust more !



You trust those who take from those that need it most. You trust those that are increasing the deficit.


The Shadow Chancellor said to the Guardian, as per previous post, that he would vote for the Tories Fiscal Charter. He also said he would reject austerity, increase spending yet reduce the deficit.

As I asked yesterday, how will this happen? At face value, it doesn't appear to add up.

Increased taxation I believe is their idea. That rather than just take it from the people most dependent on government services, the cost would be born across the spectrum of society, even including companies that avoid paying corporation tax.


Firstly, you don't need to answer Gusset's questions. He seems perfectly capable of speaking for himself and whilst you maybe a Mod, this is not (yet) called JamieTalk and it would be nice if someone else answered questions every now and again.

Secondly, the tax thing, if that is Labour policy, will never happen. Companies will go offshore or leave the UK although if tax goes up. Foreign investment will dry up. Jobs will be lost. Therefore there will be more on benefits and Britain will be a spiralling economy like Italy or Spain. The wealthy will offshore. This will mean increased borrowing and an increased deficit. Any idiot with half a brain immersed in reality can see that.

And all this emotive clap trap about 'taking from the most dependent' rhetoric, why don't you, and the left, actually try and focus on a positive vision for the 'new politics' (I.e., rehashing politics that put Labour in opposition for 18 years) rather than the typical Tory bashing nonsense your lot spew relentlessly seemingly because they have no other message?


Clear conflict of interest - you can't moderate yourself.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 29 Sep 15 7.36am

Quote matt_himself at 29 Sep 2015 7.07am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 Sep 2015 10.10pm

Quote matt_himself at 28 Sep 2015 8.24pm

Quote nickgusset at 28 Sep 2015 8.01pm

Quote Willo at 28 Sep 2015 7.57pm

Quote nickgusset at 28 Sep 2015 7.50pm

Quote Willo at 28 Sep 2015 6.59pm

Quote leifandersonshair at 28 Sep 2015 6.51pm

I've never understood the denigration of someone because they held similar views to a previous political figure. 'Trotskyite, Marxist', or 'Thatcherite'. But hey, easier to sneer that someone is a 'Trotskyite throwback' or 'out of touch Thatcherite' than actually consider their policies.

It would appear that this Labour figure HAS considered Corbyn's policies and formulated a judgement accordingly.



McDonnell has assembled a team of top economic advisors. Gideon has aa 2:11 in something non economic. I know who I'd trust more.

And I know who I trust more !



You trust those who take from those that need it most. You trust those that are increasing the deficit.


The Shadow Chancellor said to the Guardian, as per previous post, that he would vote for the Tories Fiscal Charter. He also said he would reject austerity, increase spending yet reduce the deficit.

As I asked yesterday, how will this happen? At face value, it doesn't appear to add up.

Increased taxation I believe is their idea. That rather than just take it from the people most dependent on government services, the cost would be born across the spectrum of society, even including companies that avoid paying corporation tax.


Firstly, you don't need to answer Gusset's questions. He seems perfectly capable of speaking for himself and whilst you maybe a Mod, this is not (yet) called JamieTalk and it would be nice if someone else answered questions every now and again.

Secondly, the tax thing, if that is Labour policy, will never happen. Companies will go offshore or leave the UK although if tax goes up. Foreign investment will dry up. Jobs will be lost. Therefore there will be more on benefits and Britain will be a spiralling economy like Italy or Spain. The wealthy will offshore. This will mean increased borrowing and an increased deficit. Any idiot with half a brain immersed in reality can see that.

And all this emotive clap trap about 'taking from the most dependent' rhetoric, why don't you, and the left, actually try and focus on a positive vision for the 'new politics' (I.e., rehashing politics that put Labour in opposition for 18 years) rather than the typical Tory bashing nonsense your lot spew relentlessly seemingly because they have no other message?


Matt we both know that we have been told to stay away from each other on here.

 

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Aspects of our unhealthy financial wellbeing - tax avoidance, the unregulated rent sector, the rip off costs of privatisation, the punitive lowering of tax credits for working families, the bedroom tax, the sick losing their welfare, etc, - these ways of doing things which, frankly, make us a more fractured ill-at-ease with itself and less compassionate society have their roots in right-wing economic thinking and tacit acceptance of those with similar leanings by repeating the same disproportionate scare story crap - they will go offshore, massive benefit fraud, the left think profit is a crime - year after year in order to protect the status quo.

A situation which has a negative impact on so many of the citizens of this country. The right preach patriotism and the people but all they really seem to care about is money and agreeing with those of a likemind.

 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 Sep 2015 10.10pm

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Quote nickgusset at 28 Sep 2015 8.01pm

Quote Willo at 28 Sep 2015 7.57pm

Quote nickgusset at 28 Sep 2015 7.50pm

Quote Willo at 28 Sep 2015 6.59pm

Quote leifandersonshair at 28 Sep 2015 6.51pm

I've never understood the denigration of someone because they held similar views to a previous political figure. 'Trotskyite, Marxist', or 'Thatcherite'. But hey, easier to sneer that someone is a 'Trotskyite throwback' or 'out of touch Thatcherite' than actually consider their policies.

It would appear that this Labour figure HAS considered Corbyn's policies and formulated a judgement accordingly.



McDonnell has assembled a team of top economic advisors. Gideon has aa 2:11 in something non economic. I know who I'd trust more.

And I know who I trust more !



You trust those who take from those that need it most. You trust those that are increasing the deficit.


The Shadow Chancellor said to the Guardian, as per previous post, that he would vote for the Tories Fiscal Charter. He also said he would reject austerity, increase spending yet reduce the deficit.

As I asked yesterday, how will this happen? At face value, it doesn't appear to add up.

Increased taxation I believe is their idea. That rather than just take it from the people most dependent on government services, the cost would be born across the spectrum of society, even including companies that avoid paying corporation tax.


Firstly, you don't need to answer Gusset's questions. He seems perfectly capable of speaking for himself and whilst you maybe a Mod, this is not (yet) called JamieTalk and it would be nice if someone else answered questions every now and again.

Secondly, the tax thing, if that is Labour policy, will never happen. Companies will go offshore or leave the UK although if tax goes up. Foreign investment will dry up. Jobs will be lost. Therefore there will be more on benefits and Britain will be a spiralling economy like Italy or Spain. The wealthy will offshore. This will mean increased borrowing and an increased deficit. Any idiot with half a brain immersed in reality can see that.

And all this emotive clap trap about 'taking from the most dependent' rhetoric, why don't you, and the left, actually try and focus on a positive vision for the 'new politics' (I.e., rehashing politics that put Labour in opposition for 18 years) rather than the typical Tory bashing nonsense your lot spew relentlessly seemingly because they have no other message?


Matt we both know that we have been told to stay away from each other on here.


No we haven't.

Edited by matt_himself (29 Sep 2015 7.55am)

 


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