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 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jun 21 1.52pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Like most I am not happy however I think it makes sense to push back the June 21 day a few weeks until all adults have been offered the jab. However there comes a point when even I recognise enough is enough but we are not there yet. By 21st June, all over 50s and clinically vulnerable should have had both jabs which means they are unlikely to catch the virus, or suffer severe symptoms if they do. Hospitals are not overrun,the most vulnerable have been jabbed at least once and the rollout of vaccinations continues at pace and has been a remarkable success. There should be no hitting of the 'Pause' button.No kicking the can down the road, delaying an easing of restrictions during which time there will be further scaremongering by the doom-mongers.
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Orange1290  04 Jun 21 2.32pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
By 21st June, all over 50s and clinically vulnerable should have had both jabs which means they are unlikely to catch the virus, or suffer severe symptoms if they do. Hospitals are not overrun,the most vulnerable have been jabbed at least once and the rollout of vaccinations continues at pace and has been a remarkable success. There should be no hitting of the 'Pause' button.No kicking the can down the road, delaying an easing of restrictions during which time there will be further scaremongering by the doom-mongers. EU Citizens Can Start Travelling With COVID-19 Certificates From July 1, the Council Says "Commenting on the certificate, the Prime Minister of Portugal António Costa said that the certificate is an important step towards a more normal, freer and safer life during the pandemic. According to him, the certificate will facilitate the free movement of all Europeans, starting this summer."
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| DanH SW2 04 Jun 21 2.35pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
By 21st June, all over 50s and clinically vulnerable should have had both jabs which means they are unlikely to catch the virus, or suffer severe symptoms if they do. Hospitals are not overrun,the most vulnerable have been jabbed at least once and the rollout of vaccinations continues at pace and has been a remarkable success. There should be no hitting of the 'Pause' button.No kicking the can down the road, delaying an easing of restrictions during which time there will be further scaremongering by the doom-mongers. We were nicely on track until your lot dithered on adding India to the red list. If things get delayed the finger of blame can only get pointed in one direction.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jun 21 3.18pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
We were nicely on track until your lot dithered on adding India to the red list. If things get delayed the finger of blame can only get pointed in one direction. With respect, I am not going to pre-judge the findings of a public enquiry. All I will add is that arrivals from India still had to be tested and quarantine whilst the "Variant of Interest" was being investigated.
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| Phil’s Barber Crowborough 04 Jun 21 3.19pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
We were nicely on track until your lot dithered on adding India to the red list. If things get delayed the finger of blame can only get pointed in one direction.
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cryrst  The garden of England 04 Jun 21 8.45pm |
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Originally posted by Phil’s Barber
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| BlueJay UK 05 Jun 21 1.20am |
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Originally posted by Willo
With respect, I am not going to pre-judge the findings of a public enquiry. All I will add is that arrivals from India still had to be tested and quarantine whilst the "Variant of Interest" was being investigated. That worked well Though aside from that perhaps down the road the Indian variant taking hold rather than one that appears better at evading the virus (south African Variant for instance) might end up being a good thing. We're flying blind to an extent, but a combo of so many people being vaccinated, and possibly acquiring mild cases which 'may' add yet further protection against whatever comes next is maybe not the worst situation to be in. Anyone with health issues, or of a 'ripe old age' with any sense has been vaccinated. Not much else we can do really. Time to forge ahead.
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.| Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Jun 21 12.08am |
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Heard that Guardian journalist Rachel Shabi say on sky news preview that the vaccines were never going to be the thing that set us free while criticising anyone who thought they would. Blah blah blah in favour of more restrictions, variants blah blah. Honestly, anyone who pops up on Google images having giggles with Femi the Wally should be ignored before they waffle on about zero covid and nobody must get a cough ever again while financially fvcking everyone over and starving hundreds of millions in the developing world. Complete fvckwits.
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| BlueJay UK 06 Jun 21 1.47am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Heard that Guardian journalist Rachel Shabi say on sky news preview that the vaccines were never going to be the thing that set us free while criticising anyone who thought they would. Blah blah blah in favour of more restrictions, variants blah blah. Honestly, anyone who pops up on Google images having giggles with Femi the Wally should be ignored before they waffle on about zero covid and nobody must get a cough ever again while financially fvcking everyone over and starving hundreds of millions in the developing world. Complete fvckwits. The zero covid argument is indeed nuts. I'm not sure how anyone could ever believe such a thing could become a permanent reality anywhere. As for here, at this point the vast majority at any real risk have either been fully vaccinated or will be imminently so in my view this is 'as good as it gets'. Those in vulnerable groups who decided against will possibly have an unfortunate realty check down the road, but that's their choice and shouldn't impact the rest of us. You can lead a horse to water.. but it might prefer hospital food.
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| Stirlingsays 06 Jun 21 1.57am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Heard that Guardian journalist Rachel Shabi say on sky news preview that the vaccines were never going to be the thing that set us free while criticising anyone who thought they would. Blah blah blah in favour of more restrictions, variants blah blah. Honestly, anyone who pops up on Google images having giggles with Femi the Wally should be ignored before they waffle on about zero covid and nobody must get a cough ever again while financially fvcking everyone over and starving hundreds of millions in the developing world. Complete fvckwits. Bewildering isn't it. Before the vaccine it seemed very much that it was regarded as the savior and the catalyst to normality. So much work has been done by the system to alter the public perspective. I don't think they thought it was possible to frighten and scare as successfully as they did....I mean, I remember, 'three weeks to flatten the curve', as a justification. It certainly surprised me.....I mean I think it's certainly dealt a significant blow to any real sense of libertarianism in the country. I don't think what's been accepted can really be squared with it. We are a 'cradle to grave' country now. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Jun 2021 2.00am)
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| Spiderman Horsham 06 Jun 21 6.10am |
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Originally posted by DanH
We were nicely on track until your lot dithered on adding India to the red list. If things get delayed the finger of blame can only get pointed in one direction. You could always try blaming those that chose to travel to India during a pandemic, including many who possibly hadn’t been vaccinated
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| Helmet46 Croydon 06 Jun 21 6.51am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
You could always try blaming those that chose to travel to India during a pandemic, including many who possibly hadn’t been vaccinated The fault lays firmly at the feet of the Govt, for not acting sooner, and those that travelled - for going in the first place and then finding imaginative ways to come back to avoid the inevitable quarantine. Edited by Helmet46 (06 Jun 2021 6.53am)
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