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wordup 08 Dec 17 6.20pm
Originally posted by Stuk You've not read the posts made (bar one) today then? Assumptions, presumptions, plenty of sanctimony and barely a fact there. And it's not even close to being done with yet. From today's news it seems like most of what I wanted and thought would happen, is going to happen. But i'm not going to hold my breath on stage 1, 2 or whatever they string it out to. I'll wait until it's actually finalised. Edited by Stuk (08 Dec 2017 5.38pm) If what you wanted is to not leave the single market. That's the direction this is heading in based on what's put in place so far. Of course this could change though. I'm past caring either way, and just think that the idea of people generally all being marginally unhappy might be the outcome we end up with and probably deserve.
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08 Dec 17 6.20pm

Originally posted by Stuk

You've not read the posts made (bar one) today then? Assumptions, presumptions, plenty of sanctimony and barely a fact there.

And it's not even close to being done with yet. From today's news it seems like most of what I wanted and thought would happen, is going to happen. But i'm not going to hold my breath on stage 1, 2 or whatever they string it out to. I'll wait until it's actually finalised.

Edited by Stuk (08 Dec 2017 5.38pm)

If what you wanted is to not leave the single market. That's the direction this is heading in based on what's put in place so far. Of course this could change though. I'm past caring either way, and just think that the idea of people generally all being marginally unhappy might be the outcome we end up with and probably deserve.

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matt_himself Matataland 08 Dec 17 7.12pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle The Irish government never wanted any east-west/sea border between which would have been disastrous for its own economy, but has cleverly used the issue and the DUP to completely outmanoeuvre the UK government. In particular the Irish government has achieved: full alignment with the single market and customs union on the island of Ireland even if that means the entire UK adhering; EU rights, entitlements and benefits for all citizens born in Northern Ireland guaranteed, because everyone born there is entitled to Irish citizenship; complete compliance with EU equality and human rights frameworks; all underpinned by the “1998 Agreement” which the DUP opposed, as did Michael Gove and other senior Tories and indeed which caused Arlene Foster to leave the Ulster Unionist Party and join the DUP; and the icing on the cake for the Irish is the reference to single market and customs union rules applying to future - ie more expansive - north-south co-operation. Embarrassing. The above was copied from the Guardian earlier today. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 08 Dec 17 7.12pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

The Irish government never wanted any east-west/sea border between which would have been disastrous for its own economy, but has cleverly used the issue and the DUP to completely outmanoeuvre the UK government.

In particular the Irish government has achieved:

full alignment with the single market and customs union on the island of Ireland even if that means the entire UK adhering;

EU rights, entitlements and benefits for all citizens born in Northern Ireland guaranteed, because everyone born there is entitled to Irish citizenship;

complete compliance with EU equality and human rights frameworks;

all underpinned by the “1998 Agreement” which the DUP opposed, as did Michael Gove and other senior Tories and indeed which caused Arlene Foster to leave the Ulster Unionist Party and join the DUP; and

the icing on the cake for the Irish is the reference to single market and customs union rules applying to future - ie more expansive - north-south co-operation.

Embarrassing.

The above was copied from the Guardian earlier today.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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.TUX. 08 Dec 17 7.13pm
Originally posted by wordup Not much from anyone here on this today. Maybe it's dawning on people that it's likely to end up being a crap version of what we already have. Something that isn't what anyone, remain or leave, wants or will benefit from. Govt in 'Doing what govt generally does best' shocker. Buy Litecoin.
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08 Dec 17 7.13pm

Originally posted by wordup

Not much from anyone here on this today. Maybe it's dawning on people that it's likely to end up being a crap version of what we already have. Something that isn't what anyone, remain or leave, wants or will benefit from.

Govt in 'Doing what govt generally does best' shocker.

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steeleye20 Croydon 08 Dec 17 7.25pm
I don't there was a 'deal' done in Brussels today. A fifteen page document short of actual details and all up for future discussion, in particular the Irish border was not resolved, the NI PM says there is more work to do. I have seen so many last minute dashes to Brussels they have ceased to have any effect, remember Cameron and his 'special status within the EU'? Lasted at least 24 hours, the financial 'deal' he got was less than the cost of Benteke. A break until February 2018 that is good news IMO.
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Croydon 08 Dec 17 7.25pm

I don't there was a 'deal' done in Brussels today.

A fifteen page document short of actual details and all up for future discussion, in particular the Irish border was not resolved, the NI PM says there is more work to do.

I have seen so many last minute dashes to Brussels they have ceased to have any effect, remember Cameron and his 'special status within the EU'?

Lasted at least 24 hours, the financial 'deal' he got was less than the cost of Benteke.

A break until February 2018 that is good news IMO.

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wordup 08 Dec 17 7.35pm
Originally posted by .TUX. Govt in 'Doing what govt generally does best' shocker. Ain't that the truth.
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08 Dec 17 7.35pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

Govt in 'Doing what govt generally does best' shocker.

Ain't that the truth.

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matt_himself Matataland 08 Dec 17 7.49pm
Delighted today because we are one more step away from Juncker and Tusk’s wet dream of a European Federal Superstate. We are breaking away from the EU. Wonderful. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 08 Dec 17 7.49pm

Delighted today because we are one more step away from Juncker and Tusk’s wet dream of a European Federal Superstate.

We are breaking away from the EU. Wonderful.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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matt_himself Matataland 08 Dec 17 7.51pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Stop spoiling the Brexiters special day. Brexit means Brexit. How many people remember Gusset’s ‘shall I/shan’t I’ Brexit dilemma? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 08 Dec 17 7.51pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Stop spoiling the Brexiters special day. Brexit means Brexit.

How many people remember Gusset’s ‘shall I/shan’t I’ Brexit dilemma?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 08 Dec 17 8.00pm
Originally posted by matt_himself How many people remember Gusset’s ‘shall I/shan’t I’ Brexit dilemma? Well it's not unfeasible that we will end up a with Corbyn led Brexit. So double yay. As it is, May has negotiated a very soft Brexit that will mean not much changes, including freedom of movement but we lose our veto. Huzzah for Brexit. you might want to read the pinned tweet at the top of this forum matthew. Edited by nickgusset (08 Dec 2017 8.03pm)
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Shizzlehurst 08 Dec 17 8.00pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

How many people remember Gusset’s ‘shall I/shan’t I’ Brexit dilemma?

Well it's not unfeasible that we will end up a with Corbyn led Brexit. So double yay. As it is, May has negotiated a very soft Brexit that will mean not much changes, including freedom of movement but we lose our veto. Huzzah for Brexit.

you might want to read the pinned tweet at the top of this forum matthew.

Edited by nickgusset (08 Dec 2017 8.03pm)

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matt_himself Matataland 08 Dec 17 8.03pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Well it's not unfeasible that we will end up a with Corbyn led Brexit. So double yay. As it is, May has negotiated a very soft Brexit that will mean not much changes, including freedom of movement but we lose our veto. Huzzah for Brexit. Edited by nickgusset (08 Dec 2017 8.01pm) What is a Corbyn led Brexit? What are the policies? What would it mean for Britain? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 08 Dec 17 8.03pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Edited by nickgusset (08 Dec 2017 8.01pm)

What is a Corbyn led Brexit?

What are the policies?

What would it mean for Britain?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 08 Dec 17 8.07pm
Originally posted by matt_himself What is a Corbyn led Brexit? What are the policies? What would it mean for Britain? A Brexit led by Corbyn bought about by the collapse of the charlatans in power. Ally with socialist comrades across Europe to steer towards a system that rewards hard work with a sustainable living wage negating the need for benefits. That's one off the top of my head. Brexit means Brexit
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Shizzlehurst 08 Dec 17 8.07pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

What is a Corbyn led Brexit?

What are the policies?

What would it mean for Britain?

A Brexit led by Corbyn bought about by the collapse of the charlatans in power.

Ally with socialist comrades across Europe to steer towards a system that rewards hard work with a sustainable living wage negating the need for benefits. That's one off the top of my head.

Brexit means Brexit

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matt_himself Matataland 08 Dec 17 8.16pm
Originally posted by nickgusset A Brexit led by Corbyn bought about by the collapse of the charlatans in power. Ally with socialist comrades across Europe to steer towards a system that rewards hard work with a sustainable living wage negating the need for benefits. That's one off the top of my head. Brexit means Brexit That full and concise description of a ‘Corbyn Brexit’ has won me over and I will definitely vote Labour at the next election, as all you entryists are briefed to the hilt on the goals of a Labour governments EU plans. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 08 Dec 17 8.16pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

A Brexit led by Corbyn bought about by the collapse of the charlatans in power.

Ally with socialist comrades across Europe to steer towards a system that rewards hard work with a sustainable living wage negating the need for benefits. That's one off the top of my head.

Brexit means Brexit

That full and concise description of a ‘Corbyn Brexit’ has won me over and I will definitely vote Labour at the next election, as all you entryists are briefed to the hilt on the goals of a Labour governments EU plans.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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.TUX. 08 Dec 17 8.32pm
Originally posted by nickgusset A Brexit led by Corbyn bought about by the collapse of the charlatans in power. Ally with socialist comrades across Europe to steer towards a system that rewards hard work with a sustainable living wage negating the need for benefits. That's one off the top of my head. Brexit means Brexit Blinkered thinking. All the while we still have the 'elite' and their Central Banks in control nothing will ever change bud................hence the rise of Bitcoin and blockchain technology etc etc. Edit: Meant to add........ie technology that is completely de-centralised and completely transparent. THIS is the main reason that 99% of what you will hear regarding Bitcoin etc will be slaughtered by the mainstream media, including the 'business expert' (my arse) on the BBC this morning at around 6am. Central Banks/the financial industry rule the roost, not politicians. It has been this way for decades. Edited by .TUX. (08 Dec 2017 9.15pm) Buy Litecoin.
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08 Dec 17 8.32pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

A Brexit led by Corbyn bought about by the collapse of the charlatans in power.

Ally with socialist comrades across Europe to steer towards a system that rewards hard work with a sustainable living wage negating the need for benefits. That's one off the top of my head.

Brexit means Brexit

Blinkered thinking.
All the while we still have the 'elite' and their Central Banks in control nothing will ever change bud................hence the rise of Bitcoin and blockchain technology etc etc.

Edit: Meant to add........ie technology that is completely de-centralised and completely transparent. THIS is the main reason that 99% of what you will hear regarding Bitcoin etc will be slaughtered by the mainstream media, including the 'business expert' (my arse) on the BBC this morning at around 6am.
Central Banks/the financial industry rule the roost, not politicians.
It has been this way for decades.

Edited by .TUX. (08 Dec 2017 9.15pm)

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