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 Badger11  Beckenham 27 Jun 24 8.52am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Man alive, that made me choke on my coffee. I think we can safely say that Rory Stewart is on the left hand side of the Tories....it's a stretch to call him a 'centralist'. He would be at home in the Labour party and indeed, currently does a podcast with that criminal Alastair Campbell. One of the left's greatest achievements has been to move the centre ground to the left. Politicians today that are considered right wing would have been seen as centrists back in the day. The average Tory member is far more "right wing" than the average Tory MP. This is why the party needs to be defeated soundly. They are simply not listening to their members it's a joke some are called right wing and Nazi when they stand for: Pro business These are basic Tory values. I do hope that the party now splits the liberals can join up with Lib Dems or Labour and the rump of the Tories should merge with Reform giving the voters a proper choice.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 27 Jun 24 10.40am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Oh I am! Always have been. Fiscally very much a hard line conservative who does not believe in running a deficit and postponing problems by borrowing. Socially more liberal in that I believe the most vulnerable need protection and help whilst all those who can work, should work. That includes almost everybody. Everybody should do something, paid, voluntary, full or part time, to contribute to the health of the nation. So mothers, grandmothers, grandfathers should all work? I'd have thought that raising children properly is the best thing they can contribute. Everything you say tells me that you are liberal/left.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Jun 24 11.02am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So mothers, grandmothers, grandfathers should all work? I'd have thought that raising children properly is the best thing they can contribute. Everything you say tells me that you are liberal/left. Am I misremembering? Isn't he a landlord who has taken on renters on benefits?
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| Stirlingsays 27 Jun 24 11.03am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
One of the left's greatest achievements has been to move the centre ground to the left. Politicians today that are considered right wing would have been seen as centrists back in the day. The average Tory member is far more "right wing" than the average Tory MP. This is why the party needs to be defeated soundly. They are simply not listening to their members it's a joke some are called right wing and Nazi when they stand for: Pro business These are basic Tory values. I do hope that the party now splits the liberals can join up with Lib Dems or Labour and the rump of the Tories should merge with Reform giving the voters a proper choice. I approve this message.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Jun 24 11.14am |
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Apart the first duty of keeping its people safe (something I regard as a utter failure both militarily and socially) the main role of government is the economy. Government is there to create the conditions for private enterprise to create wealth both for itself and its employees....both should result in increased tax takes. It's all very well saying that most should work...most people of working age do work. The government of the day needs to be attracting firms and businesses that can provide enough jobs for them to live comfortably enough. Something else that governments of both types have failed at. Essentially our political class aren't worth their benefits nor wages....Yet they draw them at higher rates than previous much more competent figures of the past. Short term decisions on energy, housing and basically every other important topic has resulted in a country that is declining..at a disgraceful rate compared to what previous generations had created. And a cost of living crises that deserves far more attention. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Jun 2024 11.16am)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 27 Jun 24 11.32am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Am I misremembering? Isn't he a landlord who has taken on renters on benefits? I'm sure he sees himself as some sort of saviour, doing a service for the poor.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Jun 24 11.57am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'm sure he sees himself as some sort of saviour, doing a service for the poor. Not a gas service though.
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The groover  Danbury 27 Jun 24 11.59am |
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The TV stations and media continue to ignore Reform even though they are now clearly 2nd in the polls. Its a disgrace and yet they report that we are being conned by AI on social media by the russians and chinese!!! I think you need to look closer to home guys!!!!
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| Stirlingsays 27 Jun 24 12.10pm |
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Originally posted by The groover
The TV stations and media continue to ignore Reform even though they are now clearly 2nd in the polls. Its a disgrace and yet they report that we are being conned by AI on social media by the russians and chinese!!! I think you need to look closer to home guys!!!! Fair point but you know....we go on tangents from time to time.
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| eaglesdare 27 Jun 24 12.12pm |
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I have just sent in my postal vote. First time ever voting. I voted for Reform.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Jun 24 12.14pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
I have just sent in my postal vote. First time ever voting. I voted for Reform.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 27 Jun 24 1.00pm |
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Originally posted by The groover
The TV stations and media continue to ignore Reform even though they are now clearly 2nd in the polls. Its a disgrace and yet they report that we are being conned by AI on social media by the russians and chinese!!! I think you need to look closer to home guys!!!! Nigel Farage might as well have a full-time gig on the BBC the amount he is on there.
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