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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 19 May 16 3.43pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

I honestly feel so sorry for your wife.

That's a bit patronising, isn't it?

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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JohnyBoy Flag 19 May 16 3.45pm Send a Private Message to JohnyBoy Add JohnyBoy as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

One hears the arguments from the 'City of London', and the anxieties that have been expressed.

These arguments were raised many years ago, when many of the very same "Remainers" prophesied disaster for the City of London if we failed to join the darned Euro. They said all the banks would flee to Frankfurt. In actual fact Canary Wharf alone is now far bigger than the Frankfurt financial centre and has kept growing since the crash of 2008.
I could go on and on........

Anyway I am reaching for my "Soapbox" so perhaps it is best if I allow others to debate this issue.In all honesty, my wife has had enough of me "Preaching" to her and going on about the EU Referendum incessantly !

The euro is very different with respect Willo. There was never a consensus (as the leave campaign seem to be suggesting) that we should join, infact i remember the BofE was against joining, at the time being criticised as having a conflict of interest as it would have also taken away monetary policy from the MPC, which is its main function. I recall that the politicians were split and said it would only be considered if 5 key economic conditions were met, one of which was fiscal and monetary discipline including public deficits by euro members i.e. it was never gonna happen.
Businesses and economists were similarly split, but imo i think this is a smokescreen, we are not in the euro, we have control of our own monetary policy, we will not be required to bail out Greece or any euro member should they need it and there is little chance of that changing over the long term.

 

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DanH Flag SW2 19 May 16 3.46pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

That's a bit patronising, isn't it?


All meant in jest m'dear.

 

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 19 May 16 4.19pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by DanH


All meant in jest m'dear.

Remainder.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 19 May 16 5.46pm

Originally posted by JohnyBoy

I have to say this one made me laugh or cry maybe, but perhaps we should pay attention to our mums rather than angry white disestablishment male types who see no value in education who, if they manage to get their misinformation believed would make us all as miserable as them....but anti-intellectualism really isnt that cool is it when you consider what the leave vote really is about
Higher enemployment
Higher inflation
Higher interest rates
Falling property prices
Reduced funding for public services (including NHS, pensions, education, defence, welfare and transport)
We would lose the right to live, work and retire abroad (except if you are rich enough)
Increased risk of terrorism (according to MI6)
Reduced investment/jobs from foreign companies (e.g what Bloomberg and Fujitsu have said this morning.)
Reduced workers rights e.g. paternity leave
£4300 worse off per household (assuming average 2 adult family earning £23.5k pa)
Customs duties re-introduced
Co-ordinated defence/peace policy which has helped Europe achieve the longest period of peace since roman times.
Higher debt servicing costs (currently 6% of public spending likely rising to 9-10%)
Co-ordinated environmental policy (pollution has no boundaries)
A say in the rules and regulations we would still have to comply with if we want to continue to trade with europe.
Trade tarrifs re-introduced (probably at WTO levels 15-20%)
Against the advice of all major independent institutions (imf, oecd, world bank, treasury, atleast 90% of economists, all living PM's and former PM's, all major political parties except UKIP, DUP & respect party)

Are remain voters all really little mummys boys?? Really?? Or is it just fanciful thinking by those leave voters on there downers that an immigrant free Britain would bring some kind of depressed utopia....and they think if they throw in a little bit of name-calling that we will come round to their irrational way of thinking...Really?


Johny(mummies)Boy please watch this, the man behind it is our very own Jeremy Hoskins [Link]

 


VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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JohnyBoy Flag 19 May 16 5.58pm Send a Private Message to JohnyBoy Add JohnyBoy as a friend

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

Johny(mummies)Boy please watch this, the man behind it is our very own Jeremy Hoskins [Link]

I have responded to this already, please see my post on previous page at 2:13pm today concluding that we are net better off by £1.2b a week with £14b additional funding for the NHS if we remain

 

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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 19 May 16 6.13pm

Originally posted by JohnyBoy

I have responded to this already, please see my post on previous page at 2:13pm today concluding that we are net better off by £1.2b a week with £14b additional funding for the NHS if we remain

Please share with everyone where you have sourced these figures from. You seriously believe the UK is £1.2b a week better off staying in the EU?

 


VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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JohnyBoy Flag 19 May 16 6.23pm Send a Private Message to JohnyBoy Add JohnyBoy as a friend

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

Please share with everyone where you have sourced these figures from. You seriously believe the UK is £1.2b a week better off staying in the EU?

Thought i did this already. Source: Treasury says avg uk household will be worse off by £4,300 pa. There are 19million households in uk. 4,300×19,000,0000 = £81billion which equals 1.57billion per week. Minus £350m = £1.2billion net better off. Additionally gdp growth could be 9.5% reduced in event of brexit source IMF. translated into public spending a 9.5% reduction in health budget = 14billion less spent on the Nhs.

 

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corkery Flag Cork City 19 May 16 6.34pm Send a Private Message to corkery Add corkery as a friend

Why are Irish people allowed vote? Ye can't vote in our referenda. There must be 100k Irish in the UK.

 


We'll never die

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 19 May 16 6.36pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by JohnyBoy

Thought i did this already. Source: Treasury says avg uk household will be worse off by £4,300 pa. There are 19million households in uk. 4,300×19,000,0000 = £81billion which equals 1.57billion per week. Minus £350m = £1.2billion net better off. Additionally gdp growth could be 9.5% reduced in event of brexit source IMF. translated into public spending a 9.5% reduction in health budget = 14billion less spent on the Nhs.

I'm not sure that HM Treasury can be relied upon as a disinterested source, especially as, historically, they don't have a particularly impressive track record in their forecasts.

I'd view any info from a Government source with considerable suspicion.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 19 May 16 6.45pm

Originally posted by JohnyBoy

Thought i did this already. Source: Treasury says avg uk household will be worse off by £4,300 pa. There are 19million households in uk. 4,300×19,000,0000 = £81billion which equals 1.57billion per week. Minus £350m = £1.2billion net better off. Additionally gdp growth could be 9.5% reduced in event of brexit source IMF. translated into public spending a 9.5% reduction in health budget = 14billion less spent on the Nhs.

No, forgot the monopoly fake printed figures the government has confused you with. Tell us which economist or politician has stated we would be £1.2billion net a week better off.
It's a ludicrous claim, and you know it.

BTW there are 27million households and the £4300 is scaremonger pseudo figure from Eurocrats.
If you read this [Link] you will see we are actually nearly £1000 a year better off

 


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JohnyBoy Flag 19 May 16 6.56pm Send a Private Message to JohnyBoy Add JohnyBoy as a friend

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

No, forgot the monopoly fake printed figures the government has confused you with. Tell us which economist or politician has stated we would be £1.2billion net a week better off.
It's a ludicrous claim, and you know it.

BTW there are 27million households and the £4300 is scaremonger pseudo figure from Eurocrats.
If you read this [Link] you will see we are actually nearly £1000 a year better off

I am an economist actually, and its a simple sum, i've stated which sources i used....what you choose to believe is up to you but if i were you i would be very wary of leave propoganda

 

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