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BlueJay UK 07 Apr 21 1.41pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
That first lockdown should never have lasted as long as it did, especially keeping hospitals closed and empty all summer, but of course you get the usual hysterical bunch, and Covid scared selfish, who blame ‘help out to eat out’ for the 2nd Covid season (or wave as they’re now using to to alert people we could have ‘exponential’ infections on a vaccinated population, and probably deaths as well). We’re now hearing of modelling that could see deaths in July as high as in January, when we had minimal deaths last year in July with no vaccine compared to this year with most vulnerable vaccinated and probably all adults having dose 1 by then. This is facking ridiculous and some other people need to be involved in this and not just the zero Covid obsessed medics and Boris Johnson haunted by the mistakes at the beginning while now using strategies 12 months too late, even if we’re using tests already paid for, which of course is just to try to show they weren’t a waste of money and bought too late and something correct was done the whole time. They have their zero Covid obsession and I have zero confidence in these people removed from real life steering the country into the rocks while leading the way out of it weirdly. By all accounts the first lockdown came too late (they effectively allowed Covid to be seeded all over the country by International travel, then imposed a long longdown when the damage was already done). That said, there was little support for a lockdown until it was more than obvious that the situation was bad so that's always going to be the issue. Eat Out to Help Out was an absurd idea all along. Even saying 'Just get on with life as normal' would have been preferable to lurching from a long total lockdown, to encouraging tens of millions of half price sit down meals over a very short period of time inside stuffy venues. It may well have given businesses a short lived boost, but rationally speaking it also made people act unnaturally (many more meals out than normal) in ideal circumstances for increasing the spread of Covid. Nobody was vaccinated back then and so it completely went against the purpose and efforts of the lockdown. With half the population + now one dose vaccinated we appear to be going the Israel route, which we can see is successful so far. An opening up co-inciding with those most vulnerable becoming fully vaccinated. All that matters is avoiding huge numbers of hospitalisations and based on where we are right now, I think we'll achieve that and hope that those predicting otherwise are wrong. It's not an ideal situation by any means, but we are where we are and if we look to the longterm 'do nothing' countries like Brazil with 4,195 deaths in the past 24 hours alone, was that really an economy and health boosting wonder move either? Or the 'we've cracked it!' efforts of Sweden, who it turns out hadn't. Every outcome is a sh!t outcome in one regard or another. I personally can't really see the public putting up with another lockdown though, so we should all 'hope' that the gradual opening up and vaccination campaign have done the job.
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BlueJay UK 07 Apr 21 1.42pm | |
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Covid: Brazil has more than 4,000 deaths in 24 hours for first time - [Link]
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 07 Apr 21 3.18pm | |
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Looks like under 30"s going to be advised not to take the oxford jab , go for the physer or moderna instead, looks like the europeans were one step ahead of us and wern"t just playing brexit revenge after all, fair play to europe, lets hope boris and his cronies face the music after telling us how safe the oxford jab was!Lets hope boris and jacob don"t have shares in the oxford company, god forbid nanny!
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Badger11 Beckenham 07 Apr 21 3.33pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Looks like under 30"s going to be advised not to take the oxford jab , go for the physer or moderna instead, looks like the europeans were one step ahead of us and wern"t just playing brexit revenge after all, fair play to europe, lets hope boris and his cronies face the music after telling us how safe the oxford jab was!Lets hope boris and jacob don"t have shares in the oxford company, god forbid nanny! 1. EU did not say AZ was unsafe for under 30's their politicians have been all over the place with contradictory statements and the EMA has said until today it was safe. 2. AZ is producing the vaccine largely at cost if Boris and his pals want to make a quick buck they should have bought Pfizer shares.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 07 Apr 21 3.41pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
1. EU did not say AZ was unsafe for under 30's their politicians have been all over the place with contradictory statements and the EMA has said until today it was safe. 2. AZ is producing the vaccine largely at cost if Boris and his pals want to make a quick buck they should have bought Pfizer shares.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 07 Apr 21 3.43pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
1. EU did not say AZ was unsafe for under 30's their politicians have been all over the place with contradictory statements and the EMA has said until today it was safe. 2. AZ is producing the vaccine largely at cost if Boris and his pals want to make a quick buck they should have bought Pfizer shares.
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chris123 hove actually 07 Apr 21 4.23pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Yes, looks like 20 million jabs and 79 blood clots and 19 deaths - so 1 in a million.
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Badger11 Beckenham 07 Apr 21 5.27pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Like I said Pfizer is the one that is expensive that i where the big bucks are. Not saying your wrong about profiteering just think wrong drug company.
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Badger11 Beckenham 07 Apr 21 7.11pm | |
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I hope we can all agree that this behaviour is disgusting and those concerned should face severe justice
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Apr 21 7.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I hope we can all agree that this behaviour is disgusting and those concerned should face severe justice Absolutely.
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cryrst The garden of England 07 Apr 21 9.06pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Glad to see you held back for three days. Uber under the skin again I guess. Did boris shag your bird, or boyfriend (pc) or do you really wish you were him. Seems to be a deep amount of hatred for the tories. Have you considered joining a site with a few like minded people. Even st20 is a little less radical than you. High Blood pressure coming your way I reckon.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 07 Apr 21 9.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I hope we can all agree that this behaviour is disgusting and those concerned should face severe justice Complete madness badger, i hadn"t heard about this.
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