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chris123 hove actually 06 Dec 17 5.09pm | |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
I just think they are more Irish than they are British despite being in the UK. Well you know what the National Anthem of Northern Ireland is don't you?
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Dec 17 5.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What part of 'yeah I do' don't you understand? What s the way forward then Stirling. Do you have faith in the projects whilst Davis May Green and Hammond are anywhere near it?
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Stirlingsays 06 Dec 17 5.10pm | |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
I just think they are more Irish than they are British despite being in the UK.
That's how relevant what people think is. The British in NI are as British as I am.
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Stuk Top half 06 Dec 17 5.12pm | |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Fair point. The British Isles though are no sovereign state or a consistent group of islands conferring a single nationality on all inhabitants. I can't see many Irish people counting themselves as British as a result of Ireland being geographically within the British Isles. My feeling is that NI is much more Irish than anything else, and really the last remaining vestige of the Empire hence the reluctance of many to countenance even allowing its inhabitants a chance of self-determination. They don't need to be a sovereign state, there are simply two sovereign states within them. Jersey, Guernsey and Manx residents can also call themselves British on the same basis. You can call yourself Caribbean and that's made up of a hell of a lot more than two countries. What you can't see or are feeling is neither here nor there, it's their choice. And it's nothing to do with the Empire, it was a self-determined choice made in 1920.
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Stirlingsays 06 Dec 17 5.13pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
What s the way forward then Stirling. Do you have faith in the projects whilst Davis May Green and Hammond are anywhere near it? It's all out of our control. I'm no fan of May...She would have been a good shag thirty years ago and that's about as good as I can say about the blue rinser.....Davis I like....Good brain and he has integrity, he was the leader they should have chosen instead of that t*** Cameron but his time is past. Brexit is in the hands of the remainers.....what can I say...it is what it is.
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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 06 Dec 17 5.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What part of 'yeah I do' don't you understand? Ah I apologise, I misread. Fair enough.
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Stirlingsays 06 Dec 17 5.19pm | |
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Happens.
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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 06 Dec 17 5.21pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's all out of our control. I'm no fan of May...She would have been a good shag thirty years ago and that's about as good as I can say about the blue rinser.....Davis I like....Good brain and he has integrity, he was the leader they should have chosen instead of that t*** Cameron but his time is past. Brexit is in the hands of the remainers.....what can I say...it is what it is.
"Referendums should be held when people know exactly what they are getting … we should not ask people to vote on a blank sheet of paper and tell them to trust us to fill in the details afterwards.” He also said an simple in/out referendum would be a massive error. He also said democracies that can't change their mind are no longer democracies, but has ruled out any change of heart on Brexit. He also resigned as an MP over abuses of ministerial power and holding parliament in contempt and is today's biggest perpetrator of those crimes from the front benches. He spent a year lying about Brexit impact assessments.
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Stirlingsays 06 Dec 17 5.25pm | |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
I just think they are more Irish than they are British despite being in the UK. Where we might have some agreement is on the rights and wrongs on how they came to be there. But much like the Jews in Palestine......once the state had been created the alternative was a bloodbath. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Dec 2017 5.28pm)
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Stirlingsays 06 Dec 17 5.27pm | |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
"Referendums should be held when people know exactly what they are getting … we should not ask people to vote on a blank sheet of paper and tell them to trust us to fill in the details afterwards.” He also said an simple in/out referendum would be a massive error. He also said democracies that can't change their mind are no longer democracies, but has ruled out any change of heart on Brexit. He also resigned as an MP over abuses of ministerial power and holding parliament in contempt and is today's biggest perpetrator of those crimes from the front benches. He spent a year lying about Brexit impact assessments.
He won't be asking you to write his CV that's for certain. I didn't say I agreed with him on everything but I do think the man has integrity.
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Mstrobez 06 Dec 17 5.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
He won't be asking you to write his CV that's for certain. I didn't say I agreed with him on everything but I do think the man has integrity. He voted against the Iraq war at least. Sadly we live in a time where that is a facet that qualifies an MP as half decent. He's utterly useless though. The EU will run rings round him throughout.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Dec 17 5.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
He won't be asking you to write his CV that's for certain. I didn't say I agreed with him on everything but I do think the man has integrity. Even though somewhere along he has lied. It is all unravelling.
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