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cryrst The garden of England 24 May 22 5.43am
Originally posted by croydon proud You wern"t keen on hitting the oil companies with a charge mate, even thou they said nothing changes if you do, thats where! And you don’t know how much it will get in tax or where it would be spent. You can only do it once. What happens next year. Tax the landlords more?
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cryrst

The garden of England 24 May 22 5.43am

Originally posted by croydon proud

You wern"t keen on hitting the oil companies with a charge mate, even thou they said nothing changes if you do, thats where!

And you don’t know how much it will get in tax or where it would be spent.
You can only do it once. What happens next year. Tax the landlords more?

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HKOwen Hong Kong 24 May 22 8.04am
Originally posted by ASCPFC Maybe Abbott did the sums though? Nothing to add here ( nice pun though ) and I assume " net zero " what Milliband's contribution to politics is. That's unfair, he contributed to Corbyn becoming leader Edited by HKOwen (24 May 2022 8.08am) Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 24 May 22 8.04am

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Maybe Abbott did the sums though?

Nothing to add here ( nice pun though )

and I assume " net zero " what Milliband's contribution to politics is.

That's unfair, he contributed to Corbyn becoming leader

Edited by HKOwen (24 May 2022 8.08am)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 24 May 22 3.03pm
Originally posted by cryrst And you don’t know how much it will get in tax or where it would be spent. You can only do it once. What happens next year. Tax the landlords more? So you are saying, it"s not worth pulling in only £2 billion from a wealthy company, that"s already said you can do it without us changing our plans going forward , as what will we do next year? Two, thousand million? Its a bit like saying, if Steve was giving away free season tickets to those who have had one for the past 5 years, and declining the offer because what will I do the season after next?
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croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 24 May 22 3.03pm

Originally posted by cryrst

And you don’t know how much it will get in tax or where it would be spent.
You can only do it once. What happens next year. Tax the landlords more?

So you are saying, it"s not worth pulling in only £2 billion from a wealthy company, that"s already said you can do it without us changing our plans going forward , as what will we do next year? Two, thousand million? Its a bit like saying, if Steve was giving away free season tickets to those who have had one for the past 5 years, and declining the offer because what will I do the season after next?

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Mapletree Croydon 24 May 22 4.59pm
Originally posted by cryrst And you don’t know how much it will get in tax or where it would be spent. You can only do it once. What happens next year. Tax the landlords more? Apparently the current situation is a once in a lifetime event, the perfect storm. Nobody was ready for it and huge numbers need immediate help.
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Mapletree

Croydon 24 May 22 4.59pm

Originally posted by cryrst

And you don’t know how much it will get in tax or where it would be spent.
You can only do it once. What happens next year. Tax the landlords more?

Apparently the current situation is a once in a lifetime event, the perfect storm.

Nobody was ready for it and huge numbers need immediate help.

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Mapletree Croydon 24 May 22 5.02pm
Having worked in project management for utilities, I have no doubt the big oil companies won’t be able to spend much of the windfall. They won’t be able to ramp up investment programmes very quickly. Generally just spending existing investment budgets proves beyond them. So they’ll return money to shareholders through dividends and buy backs The Government says that benefits pensioners. Well, yes, those with significant private pots. But it is regressive, the smaller a pension you have the less you benefit How very Conservative. Edited by Mapletree (24 May 2022 5.05pm)
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Mapletree

Croydon 24 May 22 5.02pm

Having worked in project management for utilities, I have no doubt the big oil companies won’t be able to spend much of the windfall. They won’t be able to ramp up investment programmes very quickly. Generally just spending existing investment budgets proves beyond them. So they’ll return money to shareholders through dividends and buy backs

The Government says that benefits pensioners. Well, yes, those with significant private pots. But it is regressive, the smaller a pension you have the less you benefit

How very Conservative.

Edited by Mapletree (24 May 2022 5.05pm)

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JRW2 Dulwich 24 May 22 5.06pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Having worked in project management for utilities, I have no doubt the big oil companies won’t be able to spend much of the windfall. They won’t be able to ramp up investment programmes very quickly. Generally just spending existing investment budgets proves beyond them. The windfall doesn't come to the companies to spend; it goes from them.
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JRW2

Dulwich 24 May 22 5.06pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Having worked in project management for utilities, I have no doubt the big oil companies won’t be able to spend much of the windfall. They won’t be able to ramp up investment programmes very quickly. Generally just spending existing investment budgets proves beyond them.

The windfall doesn't come to the companies to spend; it goes from them.

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steeleye20 Croydon 24 May 22 5.24pm
Another £800 energy hike forecast for October. Starmer's windfall tax would have covered the last £600 hike. Sunaks hopelessly inadequate energy policy increases our reliance on fossil fuels so it looks like a spiral out of control.
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steeleye20

Croydon 24 May 22 5.24pm

Another £800 energy hike forecast for October.

Starmer's windfall tax would have covered the last £600 hike.

Sunaks hopelessly inadequate energy policy increases our reliance on fossil fuels so it looks like a spiral out of control.

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 24 May 22 5.51pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Another £800 energy hike forecast for October. Starmer's windfall tax would have covered the last £600 hike. Sunaks hopelessly inadequate energy policy increases our reliance on fossil fuels so it looks like a spiral out of control. It does feel like a waiting game for the riots to kick off now. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 24 May 22 5.51pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Another £800 energy hike forecast for October.

Starmer's windfall tax would have covered the last £600 hike.

Sunaks hopelessly inadequate energy policy increases our reliance on fossil fuels so it looks like a spiral out of control.

It does feel like a waiting game for the riots to kick off now.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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BlueJay UK 24 May 22 5.58pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 It does feel like a waiting game for the riots to kick off now. Sunak better get working on that windfall tax!
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BlueJay

UK 24 May 22 5.58pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

It does feel like a waiting game for the riots to kick off now.

Sunak better get working on that windfall tax!

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 24 May 22 6.06pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 It does feel like a waiting game for the riots to kick off now. Funny enough, even thou we are a subserviant shrug our shoulders and keep calm nation, I did say over the weekend if we get a couple of hot days on the trot, falling over a weekend, we might, just might, see a bit of public disorder, I might blast some "police and thieves" off the roof of my block, just to get things started! It could come from people going hungry, broke, fed up, or perhaps after they discover where the £47 thousand million ppe cash went or more likely a response to the met going soft on bungle with only one fine!
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croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 24 May 22 6.06pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

It does feel like a waiting game for the riots to kick off now.

Funny enough, even thou we are a subserviant shrug our shoulders and keep calm nation, I did say over the weekend if we get a couple of hot days on the trot, falling over a weekend, we might, just might, see a bit of public disorder, I might blast some "police and thieves" off the roof of my block, just to get things started! It could come from people going hungry, broke, fed up, or perhaps after they discover where the £47 thousand million ppe cash went or more likely a response to the met going soft on bungle with only one fine!

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 24 May 22 6.08pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Another £800 energy hike forecast for October. Starmer's windfall tax would have covered the last £600 hike. Sunaks hopelessly inadequate energy policy increases our reliance on fossil fuels so it looks like a spiral out of control. We can always cancel our holiday in cornwall and get another job Steeleye, season ticket or eat?
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croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 24 May 22 6.08pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Another £800 energy hike forecast for October.

Starmer's windfall tax would have covered the last £600 hike.

Sunaks hopelessly inadequate energy policy increases our reliance on fossil fuels so it looks like a spiral out of control.

We can always cancel our holiday in cornwall and get another job Steeleye, season ticket or eat?

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Mapletree Croydon 24 May 22 6.15pm
Originally posted by JRW2 The windfall doesn't come to the companies to spend; it goes from them. Eh? I think you are confusing windfall with windfall tax
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Mapletree

Croydon 24 May 22 6.15pm

Originally posted by JRW2

The windfall doesn't come to the companies to spend; it goes from them.

Eh?

I think you are confusing windfall with windfall tax

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