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Stirlingsays 26 Mar 21 8.06pm | |
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The success the British have had with vaccination has caused such a stir abroad that underhand tactics are afoot. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Mar 2021 8.06pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 26 Mar 21 8.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The success the British have had with vaccination has caused such a stir abroad that underhand tactics are afoot. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Mar 2021 8.06pm) We have made the EU leaders look like the useless pricks they are. They don't like it.
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Stirlingsays 26 Mar 21 8.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
We have made the EU leaders look like the useless pricks they are. They don't like it. Indeed. Making the EU look incompetent doesn't appear like a particularly hard thing to achieve.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 27 Mar 21 3.53pm | |
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Of course I applaud the vaccine development and roll-out, but it raises as many questions as it solves. So ultimately, after all the endeavours, we seem to be more accepting of the "herd immunity" thing, that people wanted to initially avoid.
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BlueJay UK 27 Mar 21 7.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
In Israel and in trials here and elsewhere vaccination had a seriously dramatic impact on hospitalisation. We're not really just talking about a matter of degrees. Quote
And the two critical issues are (for me) after vaccination 1. You can still be a carrier/spreader of Covid 2. We have no idea how long the vaccination is going to stay effective for. (even without considering mutations of the virus) 1. There are differences between vaccines but again they significantly cut down on infection and transmission rates in multiple studies. From an individuals perspective if you did get Covid 'after' vaccination it shouldn't be that bad and it would likely further enhance your immune response anyway. 2. Natural infection appears to last several months and vaccination (two doses) exceeds those antibody levels so there is reason to believe its a good amount of time. It will likely turn into a yearly flu jab type situation. Quote
So ultimately, after all the endeavours, we seem to be more accepting of the "herd immunity" thing, that people wanted to initially avoid. I'd say that Brazil is more of an example of actual herd immunity, and it's an ongoing disaster.
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davenotamonkey 30 Mar 21 9.42am | |
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The EU are utterly rabid at the moment. As if raiding factories after (heavily press-leaked) "tip-offs" concerning secret stashes of vaccines destined to the UK (that were in fact due to be distributed to Belgium, oops)... ...they are now seizing shipments of GlaxoSmithKline (no COVID vaccine) Meningitis vaccines (not a COVID vaccine) destined to the US (not in the EU), because they think the vials might (reason?) contain COVID vaccine (that they aren't vaccinating with anyway). [Tweet Link]
They have gone beyond deranged at this point. Just imagine the line of reasoning. "We're banning exports of COVID vaccines" They are now going to have to test the vaccines (private property) to see that it is indeed meningitis vaccine. I hope the US customer sues them to oblivion for possible violation and contamination of the shipment. Then, once again, they will be humiliated that their delusional paranoia has exposed them as the deranged nutjobs they currently are.
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Badger11 Beckenham 30 Mar 21 9.56am | |
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Unbelievable behaviour from Italy, Dave. And as if the EU doesn't have enough problems with vaccines The more they continue to punish us the more we will look to do business outside of the EU. I am already noticing the difference in the supermarkets M&S normally have a range of coffee's of EU origin well in my store they have gone to be replaced with coffees from around the world. Edited by Badger11 (30 Mar 2021 9.57am)
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Mar 21 11.19am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Unbelievable behaviour from Italy, Dave. And as if the EU doesn't have enough problems with vaccines The more they continue to punish us the more we will look to do business outside of the EU. I am already noticing the difference in the supermarkets M&S normally have a range of coffee's of EU origin well in my store they have gone to be replaced with coffees from around the world. Edited by Badger11 (30 Mar 2021 9.57am) God they’re so childish. If they aren’t careful we could end up boycotting French wine and cheese and anything else we either make ourselves or buy elsewhere. It won’t take that many to boycott their produce to get European businesses to start grilling the EU to cut this out.
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davenotamonkey 30 Mar 21 11.32am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
God they’re so childish. If they aren’t careful we could end up boycotting French wine and cheese and anything else we either make ourselves or buy elsewhere. It won’t take that many to boycott their produce to get European businesses to start grilling the EU to cut this out. We've been doing this for some time. We actively seek out New World wines, UK cheese, UK fruit and veg where possible. No doubt I'd be labelled some anti-EU bigot by a globalist-supporting Green-party FBPE loon, without a trace of irony.
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The Dolphin 30 Mar 21 11.48am | |
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I have no problem - in fact I relish us finding other ways to skin the cat and if that helps UK business's to grow then brilliant.
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Badger11 Beckenham 31 Mar 21 5.02pm | |
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I had my 2nd vaccine today 6 weeks after the first, I guess that's one of the perks of being a volunteer.
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BlueJay UK 31 Mar 21 5.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I had my 2nd vaccine today 6 weeks after the first, I guess that's one of the perks of being a volunteer. Nice one. Well deserved too since you're more than doing your bit!
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