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 europalace  Europe 29 Nov 17 12.02pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
What EU privileges? EU freedom of movement and the ability to work unhindered in another EU country? Those privileges have been available to ALL UK citizens since membership. The fact that many chose not to take advantage of them is their issue. My offspring may well choose to live in the UK one day, who knows. I very much doubt it as all of their friends are now on the continent and whenever we do visit the UK they don't like it.
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Rudi Hedman  Caterham 29 Nov 17 12.11pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
What EU privileges? EU freedom of movement and the ability to work unhindered in another EU country? Those privileges have been available to ALL UK citizens since membership. The fact that many chose not to take advantage of them is their issue. My offspring may well choose to live in the UK one day, who knows. I very much doubt it as all of their friends are now on the continent and whenever we do visit the UK they don't like it. That's right. We choose whether or not to move freely and many of us don't want complete freedom of movement. You're catching on, almost. If you and your kids don't like the UK or us, why bother coming back here for visits at all? Where you are is so wonderful makes it even more strange, even though each place bores you so much that after 5 years you have to find another place to stop.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Nov 17 12.15pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
As regards to 'buggering off', well I took advantage of being a European citizen, a privilege everyone in the UK still has. With regards to the country I now live in, who knows what it will be like in 5-10 years time. We'll be long gone by then. That's the beauty of the EU, you can move around at will and pick where you want to live. Get bored or want a change, move again. We've done it with a young family, so that old chestnut isn't any excuse at all. It all depends if you've got a closed mind or an open mind. Before you drown in your own confusion in your short term preferred place to live, can you explain what this means? People who voted leave are bitter because they cannot stomach reality? I haven't heard anyone resembling this sh1t you've imagined.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 29 Nov 17 12.21pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I've been anti EU since the nineties.....bots indeed. Still listening to excuses for votes that go against your politics it appears. The EU is a disaster zone but please please move to it if you believe the future is there. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Nov 2017 12.00pm)
The EU a disaster zone? Not sure where you got that from. Some of the finest cities and countries in the world and in the EU. Sweden strikes me as a very pleasant place, as does Denmark. Both have much better living standards than here. France is also lovely. Great food, nice lifestyle, good culture, nice weather, beautiful countryside, more productive. I would love to live abroad, but family and friends are all here and my wife (who is French) works for the NHS in child mental health, an area which France does not have the same level of care that we do. I enjoy living in London, but London feels like a different country sometimes. I wouldn't live anywhere else in the UK. Given the reports of frankly shocking disparities in social mobility and huge swathes of the country forgotten and left behind I think it's the UK which is the disaster zone. London aside.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Nov 17 12.29pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
The EU a disaster zone? Not sure where you got that from. Some of the finest cities and countries in the world and in the EU. Sweden strikes me as a very pleasant place, as does Denmark. Both have much better living standards than here. France is also lovely. Great food, nice lifestyle, good culture, nice weather, beautiful countryside, more productive. I would love to live abroad, but family and friends are all here and my wife (who is French) works for the NHS in child mental health, an area which France does not have the same level of care that we do. I enjoy living in London, but London feels like a different country sometimes. I wouldn't live anywhere else in the UK. Given the reports of frankly shocking disparities in social mobility and huge swathes of the country forgotten and left behind I think it's the UK which is the disaster zone. London aside. Why does London feel like a different country? France has its problems, hidden from view of tourists and visitors. Scandinavian countries are in a good state because of accepted high levels of taxation, lower debt and being smaller so can administer that set up successfully. It's their ethos whereas ours is self interest and how much better off I will be after a general election. Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Nov 2017 12.29pm)
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| europalace Europe 29 Nov 17 12.44pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Before you drown in your own confusion in your short term preferred place to live, can you explain what this means? People who voted leave are bitter because they cannot stomach reality? I haven't heard anyone resembling this sh1t you've imagined. No confusion at all. I'm interested in experiencing other cultures, languages, food and people. It creates an open mind unlike those who don't get that experience. Get it or maybe you don't because from what you're saying you seem to begrudge people who have made an effort to get those experiences. It also reflects rather a similar profile to the many I know who voted to leave. With regards to my visits t be UK, so what? I cone to visit friends a couple of times a year. I'm actually in Thailand right now for a few weeks. Great place, nice culture, great food and people. Maybe our next stop in a couple of years. Edited by europalace (29 Nov 2017 12.46pm)
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 29 Nov 17 12.51pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
No confusion at all. I'm interested in experiencing other cultures, languages, food and people. It creates an open mind unlike those who don't get that experience. Get it or maybe you don't because from what you're saying you seem to begrudge people who have made an effort to get those experiences. It also reflects rather a similar profile to the many I know who voted to leave. With regards to my visits t be UK, so what? I cone to visit friends a couple of times a year. I'm actually in Thailand right now for a few weeks. Great place, nice culture, great food and people. Maybe our next stop in a couple of years. Edited by europalace (29 Nov 2017 12.46pm) At least the Thai's have the good sense not to be in the EU.
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| Stirlingsays 29 Nov 17 1.03pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
The EU a disaster zone? Not sure where you got that from. Some of the finest cities and countries in the world and in the EU. Sweden strikes me as a very pleasant place, as does Denmark. Both have much better living standards than here. France is also lovely. Great food, nice lifestyle, good culture, nice weather, beautiful countryside, more productive. I would love to live abroad, but family and friends are all here and my wife (who is French) works for the NHS in child mental health, an area which France does not have the same level of care that we do. I enjoy living in London, but London feels like a different country sometimes. I wouldn't live anywhere else in the UK. Given the reports of frankly shocking disparities in social mobility and huge swathes of the country forgotten and left behind I think it's the UK which is the disaster zone. London aside. Typical. 'the EU is lovely'....move?....excuse, excuse, excuse. At least middle class types like you will be able to move once you get Corbyn in......after he wrecks the economy suddenly I expect those excuses won't be there.
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| europalace Europe 29 Nov 17 1.05pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
At least the Thai's have the good sense not to be in the EU. Clearly you American experience has diluted your geographical knowledge, no surprise there at all. However, it is in the ASEAN trade bloc because they also realise that working together in a bloc makes much more economic sense. By the way, why are there loads of creepy British and Australian guys here? All seem to be in their 50s/60s, balding and with ugly local women? We spoke to some of the locals and they said it was a huge problem for local women who are constantly pestered by these guys. They explained the only women who would even consider going with them do it for money. What a sad mess they've created in a lovely country.
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Kermit8  Hevon 29 Nov 17 1.07pm |
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Last poll encountered 44% of the 51.8% still content with their decision with 4% regretful and 4% in a 'not quite sure what to think now' frame of mind.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 29 Nov 17 1.13pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Typical. 'the EU is lovely'....move?....excuse, excuse, excuse. At least middle class types like you will be able to move once you get Corbyn in......after he wrecks the economy suddenly I expect those excuses won't be there.
There are indeed many lovely parts of the EU. Having a mortgage, family life, friends, season ticket etc. in London does make moving away much more difficult, however if I was ever to move from London it would not be to anywhere else in the UK. Just look at wages, house prices, infrastructure, access to culture, job opportunities, cuisine, diversity, development, retail opportunities, political outlook, much higher social mobility to name but a few aspects that make London a markedly different place from the rest of the UK and why to me it feels often like a separate state.
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| Stirlingsays 29 Nov 17 1.13pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Last poll encountered 44% of the 51.8% still content with their decision with 4% regretful and 4% in a 'not quite sure what to think now' frame of mind. We have had nothing but mass criticism of leave since the vote. The entire establishment was remain and they have done nothing but continually attack since the vote. If another vote started I'm pretty sure the 'leave' campaign would get them back. But this question is done for, by rights, over a generation......just like we had to wait for a vote on the EU again after 74.
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