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Park Road  24 Jun 19 11.24am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
They were targeted for their colour and because of their colour, for sexual exploitation, by another race (racism), and a different nationality and culture (xenophobia). People with your views must be kept away from power forever. Agree100% And society in general!
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| W12 24 Jun 19 11.29am | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Prejudice is seeing the victims as "white girls" and not simply as girls. Prejudice is seeing the perpetrators as Muslim men and not simply as criminals. Prejudice is by those who seek to taint the innocent by association. That's exactly the attitude that led to this going on for so long without redress. Don't you think for example that once this had been identified in more than one town on a large scale that we would (1) had had a full scale public inquiry (2) started to actively look at other towns as at that point it would have been fairly obvious where to look and (3) Mobilize to put *huge* resources in place to help the 1000's of victims. I don't believe any of those things happened even now because it directly challenged the politically correct narrative that all cultures are equal, all minorities are oppressed and mass immigration can *only* be a good thing. We had 44 more people confirmed as charged on Friday and all the headlines are about Boris Johnson having a minor row with his wife. It's a sick society. If a certain identifiable group of people are massively over represented in committing particular crimes then you need to look at *why* rather then treating them all as just "criminals". Otherwise you are simply ignoring evidence and make it far more likely that more children are abused as you cannot begin to address the problem. It's nothing short of a national disaster that a whole generation of children were abused en mass. Nobody suggested tainting the innocent by the way. I don't know where you got that from. I suspect all the above is wasted on you though as you are like many indoctrinated into ignoring facts whether by parents, schooling or the mainstream media (probably all of those).
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 Stirlingsays  24 Jun 19 11.39am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree
If he acted as a journalist - and that resulted in bringing people to justice - that would be good. As far as I can see he didn’t. He failed to raise any new cases and obstructed rather than accelerated justice. He is lucky Canterbury wasn’t a mistrial Find me an example where he has genuinely made a positive difference to a case please. So much misinformation in this case. This just blows my mind. The institutions knew about allegations for many years before and it's on public record that they ignored them. When Robinson started up the EDL in 2009. The EDL was highlighting issues including sharia law, mainstream Islam’s attitudes toward minorities, outside and within its own communities and what we now know as 'grooming gangs.' The Times report broke on 5 January 2011. There are valid criticisms to be made of organizations such as the EDL and individuals such as Tommy Robinson detailed by people I respect such as Douglas Murray and select commentators on here. However, while some criticism is valid.....with respect, it pales into microscopic insignificance to the validity of criticism directed at the monumental block of denialism and apologetics that I regularly find in the opposite direction.
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| Park Road 24 Jun 19 11.43am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by W12
That's exactly the attitude that led to this going on for so long without redress. Don't you think for example that once this had been identified in more than one town on a large scale that we would (1) had had a full scale public inquiry (2) started to actively look at other towns as at that point it would have been fairly obvious where to look and (3) Mobilize to put *huge* resources in place to help the 1000's of victims. I don't believe any of those things happened even now because it directly challenged the politically correct narrative that all cultures are equal, all minorities are oppressed and mass immigration can *only* be a good thing. We had 44 more people confirmed as charged on Friday and all the headlines are about Boris Johnson having a minor row with his wife. It's a sick society. If a certain identifiable group of people are massively over represented in committing particular crimes then you need to look at *why* rather then treating them all as just "criminals". Otherwise you are simply ignoring evidence and make it far more likely that more children are abused as you cannot begin to address the problem. It's nothing short of a national disaster that a whole generation of children were abused en mass. Nobody suggested tainting the innocent by the way. I don't know where you got that from. I suspect all the above is wasted on you though as you are like many indoctrinated into ignoring facts whether by parents, schooling or the mainstream media (probably all of those). I would make him go and visit the abused personally.
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cryrst  The garden of England 24 Jun 19 12.01pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Prejudice is seeing the victims as "white girls" and not simply as girls. Prejudice is seeing the perpetrators as Muslim men and not simply as criminals. Prejudice is by those who seek to taint the innocent by association. So if one of yours was bashed or beaten by a gang you wouldn't want the police to highlight if they were white black or Asian gang to help catch them.
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| Mapletree Croydon 24 Jun 19 12.48pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Stirlingsays
This just blows my mind. The institutions knew about allegations for many years before and it's on public record that they ignored them. When Robinson started up the EDL in 2009. The EDL was highlighting issues including sharia law, mainstream Islam’s attitudes toward minorities, outside and within its own communities and what we now know as 'grooming gangs.' The Times report broke on 5 January 2011. There are valid criticisms to be made of organizations such as the EDL and individuals such as Tommy Robinson detailed by people I respect such as Douglas Murray and select commentators on here. However, while some criticism is valid.....with respect, it pales into microscopic insignificance to the validity of criticism directed at the monumental block of denialism and apologetics that I regularly find in the opposite direction.
Show me the example where Mr Lennon was able to make a difference to the course of justice. You serially claim that he has, show me. The fact that such cases don't get dealt with quickly - or sometimes at all - is well established, in fact that applies to all of the historic cases I can think of. The 1970s cases largely have still not been resolved and very few people have been charged. Cyril Smith never got looked into properly until after his death. Saville. And all the others. So maybe Robinson did make a difference by focusing people on the issue. If so that should be easy to prove. Please go ahead.
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| W12 24 Jun 19 1.12pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree
Show me the example where Mr Lennon was able to make a difference to the course of justice. You serially claim that he has, show me. The fact that such cases don't get dealt with quickly - or sometimes at all - is well established, in fact that applies to all of the historic cases I can think of. The 1970s cases largely have still not been resolved and very few people have been charged. Cyril Smith never got looked into properly until after his death. Saville. And all the others. So maybe Robinson did make a difference by focusing people on the issue. If so that should be easy to prove. Please go ahead. Name me any other well known figure in public life who is speaking out about this scandal? The silence is deathly because of the threat of career suicide due to the control the mainstream media has over us. He's the only person that is willing to accept the very real personal risk to him and his family of speaking out against this scandal and growing radical Islam in this country. Sure there are a very few others but most not exactly household names.
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| Park Road 24 Jun 19 1.16pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree
Show me the example where Mr Lennon was able to make a difference to the course of justice. You serially claim that he has, show me. The fact that such cases don't get dealt with quickly - or sometimes at all - is well established, in fact that applies to all of the historic cases I can think of. The 1970s cases largely have still not been resolved and very few people have been charged. Cyril Smith never got looked into properly until after his death. Saville. And all the others. So maybe Robinson did make a difference by focusing people on the issue. If so that should be easy to prove. Please go ahead. Nothing is easy to prove, but common sense highlights the fact that he spoke about it and brought it to the public's attention, when everyone else shied away. If he didn't highlight it, then who knows how much worse it would have got. Saville is a prime example how warped people are, especially at the BBC. Instead, of concentrating on whether someone you detest i.e. Lennon- fvck knows why you and your ilk insist on calling him that , eventhough changing your name by deepoll is widely used. Why don't you ask the victims, on their views on Robinson/Lennon.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 24 Jun 19 2.07pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree
Show me the example where Mr Lennon was able to make a difference to the course of justice. You serially claim that he has, show me. The fact that such cases don't get dealt with quickly - or sometimes at all - is well established, in fact that applies to all of the historic cases I can think of. The 1970s cases largely have still not been resolved and very few people have been charged. Cyril Smith never got looked into properly until after his death. Saville. And all the others. So maybe Robinson did make a difference by focusing people on the issue. If so that should be easy to prove. Please go ahead. The recent cases involving pakistani gangs bare no comparison to cases of the past, so just stop with all this diversionary whataboutery. Face up to the truth man.
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| Mapletree Croydon 24 Jun 19 2.20pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Park Road
Nothing is easy to prove, but common sense highlights the fact that he spoke about it and brought it to the public's attention, when everyone else shied away. If he didn't highlight it, then who knows how much worse it would have got. Saville is a prime example how warped people are, especially at the BBC. Instead, of concentrating on whether someone you detest i.e. Lennon- fvck knows why you and your ilk insist on calling him that , eventhough changing your name by deepoll is widely used. Why don't you ask the victims, on their views on Robinson/Lennon. I don't have an ilk I am unaware of any name change. The man's name originally was Stephen Yaxley. Later he started to use the name Yaxley-Lennon. On his passport it says Paul Harris. As far as I know he is not known as Tommy Robinson in any official context. In his own words this is a name he stole from a very nasty football thug. So far what I know is that cases that were sub judicie were compromised by Stephen. I still have no proof that he has had any impact on cases that were not already being progressed. Generally it is after a conviction that full details come into the public domain. So all he did was accelerate that to the detriment of the cases.
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| Mapletree Croydon 24 Jun 19 2.21pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The recent cases involving pakistani gangs bare no comparison to cases of the past, so just stop with all this diversionary whataboutery. Face up to the truth man. If I relied upon you for the truth I would be a very confused man.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 24 Jun 19 2.44pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree
If I relied upon you for the truth I would be a very confused man. You are already very confused. You don't know the difference idealistic fantasy and reality.
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