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  SW19 CPFC  Addiscombe West 02 Mar 21 1.33pm |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
I think people ought to be cautious in demanding a move to WFH post lockdown - as appealing as it may seem. Rendering office jobs worthless is pretty much giving free reign to businesses to outsource the labour abroad at a fraction of the cost. It could potentially put millions of people out of work. Possibly – certainly in some industries that are heavily coding based, for example. Google is already allowing anyone to WFH indefinitely should they want to. Less skilled jobs I think you may have a point, but more skilled ones cheaper doesn't usually mean better. Millions of people will be going out of work in the next 50 years anyway. Not that it makes any of that OK, but it's coming regardless
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 02 Mar 21 1.35pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
And yet the smarter than us French and German maturer age groups aren’t taking the vaccine. We’re meant to be the stupid and ignorant country. If you say so
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| Mstrobez 02 Mar 21 1.40pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Possibly – certainly in some industries that are heavily coding based, for example. Google is already allowing anyone to WFH indefinitely should they want to. Less skilled jobs I think you may have a point, but more skilled ones cheaper doesn't usually mean better. Millions of people will be going out of work in the next 50 years anyway. Not that it makes any of that OK, but it's coming regardless Certainly agree that the workforce is going to look very different. I suspect programs that resemble something like universal basic income will become more prominent in the near future. Who knows, perhaps it'll be a good thing.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Mar 21 1.42pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
If you say so I’m not the one holding those opinions, and that’s my point, but older French and Germans aren’t having the vaccine. That is news, not my opinion.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 02 Mar 21 2.12pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I’m not the one holding those opinions, and that’s my point, but older French and Germans aren’t having the vaccine. That is news, not my opinion. Correct and Macron and Merkel's very public opinions have not helped the matter. Edited by Badger11 (02 Mar 2021 2.12pm)
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BlueJay  UK 02 Mar 21 4.12pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Plenty of that in the valley past a certain hour, along with the always delicious sight of smashed up donors down coulsdon road... Back on topic, the latest early real world data about the vaccines preventing 80% of infection in the older age groups is great, but surely that figure is artificially high considering all the data has been gathered in lockdown? I'd be interested to see the figures when out of lockdown and people are actually mingling without distancing again. Can't think they'll be that high. I'm pretty sure the 'chance of needing hospital treatment' comparison is with unvaccinated people of the same age. So in theory the decreased likelihood in comparison to that group should at least remain the same (even if actual numbers of hospitalisations go up a little due to coming out of lockdown). The comparison was "confirmed COVID-19 cases aged over 80 who were vaccinated more than 14 days before testing positive, compared to unvaccinated cases". Being that it can take three weeks for antibodies to build up (especially in the elderly), it may well be that the hospitalisation decrease in comparison to unvaccinated individuals is even greater than 80%. Then ago who knows how these new variants will play into things. Hopefully the vaccines will still have some impact on those ina real world setting. Several unknowns at play as always!
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| cryrst The garden of England 02 Mar 21 4.34pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
I'm pretty sure the 'chance of needing hospital treatment' comparison is with unvaccinated people of the same age. So in theory the decreased likelihood in comparison to that group should at least remain the same (even if actual numbers of hospitalisations go up a little due to coming out of lockdown). The comparison was "confirmed COVID-19 cases aged over 80 who were vaccinated more than 14 days before testing positive, compared to unvaccinated cases". Being that it can take three weeks for antibodies to build up (especially in the elderly), it may well be that the hospitalisation decrease in comparison to unvaccinated individuals is even greater than 80%. Then ago who knows how these new variants will play into things. Hopefully the vaccines will still have some impact on those ina real world setting. Several unknowns at play as always! Any % protection is better than none.
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| BlueJay UK 02 Mar 21 7.44pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Any % protection is better than none. Most certainly. The results of these vaccines are shaping up to be extremely encouraging when compared to, say, the flu vaccine. That may reduce somewhat with future variants, but will hopefully still offer some protection which can make a real difference when you're up against something like this. For anyone elderly, obese or with other health issues it's certainly a much more sensible option to have the vaccine rather than try their luck with the virus.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 02 Mar 21 10.43pm |
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Texas are opening up 100% including no mask mandate. as are Iceland. This bulls*** is slowly coming to an end.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Mar 21 10.58pm |
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Furlough is to be extended until September yet we’re supposed to be fully open on 21st June. Which jobs won’t be allowed to open? October restrictions or lockdowns for Covid season comes next.
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| BlueJay UK 02 Mar 21 11.15pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Texas are opening up 100% including no mask mandate. as are Iceland. This bulls*** is slowly coming to an end. Didn't you make a mint from selling face masks?
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. Were they just fashion pieces or instead items that could feasibly protect people some way? | BlueJay UK 02 Mar 21 11.18pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Furlough is to be extended until September yet we’re supposed to be fully open on 21st June. Which jobs won’t be allowed to open? October restrictions or lockdowns for Covid season comes next. Curious. Could it instead be related to anticipating demand taking a few months to build? In the hospitality sector and the like, the scheme being gradually phased out by some businesses rather than there being additional lockdowns on the cards? I must confess I've not heard there reasoning behind it. Edited by BlueJay (02 Mar 2021 11.19pm)
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