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 Hansy  17 Nov 17 8.44am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
It's this devil May care attitude that will f*** Brexit up. Actually you are wrong. May was in favour of Remain, it's her team that include some hard-line brexiteers. The best thing to happen or BRexit and the EU leaders know this is if May continues in Power. If she doesn't and the Tories elect someone like Johnson, Davis or Fox as leader they will take a much more hardline approach. Remember even with a leadership change, the Tories don't need to call an election as they can still outvote Labour/Lib Dems and call upon DUP if needed. So, she's not this fictional character you are referring her to.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Nov 17 8.49am |
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Originally posted by Hansy
Actually you are wrong. May was in favour of Remain, it's her team that include some hard-line brexiteers. The best thing to happen or BRexit and the EU leaders know this is if May continues in Power. If she doesn't and the Tories elect someone like Johnson, Davis or Fox as leader they will take a much more hardline approach. Remember even with a leadership change, the Tories don't need to call an election as they can still outvote Labour/Lib Dems and call upon DUP if needed. So, she's not this fictional character you are referring her to. Hehe. Just realised what I wrote. I genuinely meant some people have a feck it devil may care attitude without a pun intended.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 17 Nov 17 9.51am |
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Isabel Oakeshott had to shut Sonia Sodhe up last night on sky's paper preview. IO was explaining to the numbskulls in the country that more people adds to the housing crisis, whether we like it or not. The centre left, illogical and ideological idiot Sonia piped up that IO was xenophobic. IO rightly took great offence to this, said so and stared her down. Sodhe didn't know what to say and did one of those smiley, 'I'll just wait this out like this till the break' type faces as IO kept making her look a fool by going over how coming up with a perfectly logical point makes her dislike or hate foreign people and how offensive it was. Sonia, after getting carried away with her default bullsh1t reply didn't know what to say apart from just keep her fake wide mouthed smile to hide her uncomfortable embarrassment. Great telly. Shame it was at 11.44 a minute before the11.45 break. Wanted to see more of it. Quite arousing too.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 17 Nov 17 10.12am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
No "we" didn't. 51.8% did and that after that they had been cajoled and lied to by the Brexit campaign leaders as Ken rightly points out. Whereas the Remain campaign did no cajoling or lying at all.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 17 Nov 17 4.21pm |
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The taoiseach (Irish PM) was scathing about UK politicians who he said had backed Brexit without real thought to the consequences of leaving. “It’s 18 months since the referendum. It’s 10 years since people who wanted a referendum started agitating for one,” he said. “Sometimes it doesn’t seem like they have thought all this through.
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| Stuk Top half 17 Nov 17 4.32pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The taoiseach (Irish PM) was scathing about UK politicians who he said had backed Brexit without real thought to the consequences of leaving. “It’s 18 months since the referendum. It’s 10 years since people who wanted a referendum started agitating for one,” he said. “Sometimes it doesn’t seem like they have thought all this through.
The persistent use of this word on UK news sites, in English, is really annoying. Unless they're going to start calling Merkel "the Bundeskanzler" or The Polish PM "the Premier Polski" along with every other foreign language just say the Irish PM. What he said however is irrelevant. His foreign minister's comments were even more stupid.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 17 Nov 17 5.13pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The taoiseach (Irish PM) was scathing about UK politicians who he said had backed Brexit without real thought to the consequences of leaving. “It’s 18 months since the referendum. It’s 10 years since people who wanted a referendum started agitating for one,” he said. “Sometimes it doesn’t seem like they have thought all this through. That must be the understatement of the year....... This from a 'leader' whose minor country would be bankrupt is it wasn't for billions of pounds in bailouts from the UK.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 17 Nov 17 5.19pm |
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I maybe wrong(it happens a lot) but my understanding of the Irish border problem is this: The UK wants a frictionless border, in other words carry on as now. The downside of this is that in theory people could fly to the Republic and sneak across the border into the UK. The UK says that this is not an issue and we can handle it. The EU also doesn't want a hard border however their concern is money or rather their fear that cheap UK goods will be smuggled across the border into the Republic. So the EU wants the North of Ireland to remain in the single market / customs Union to stop this. Now of course the EU is dressing this up as defending Ireland's rights / Good Friday agreement. We should tell the EU this is their problem to solve rather than them imposing EU restrictions on part of the UK.
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Kermit8  Hevon 17 Nov 17 5.54pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I maybe wrong(it happens a lot) but my understanding of the Irish border problem is this: The UK wants a frictionless border, in other words carry on as now. The downside of this is that in theory people could fly to the Republic and sneak across the border into the UK. The UK says that this is not an issue and we can handle it. The EU also doesn't want a hard border however their concern is money or rather their fear that cheap UK goods will be smuggled across the border into the Republic. So the EU wants the North of Ireland to remain in the single market / customs Union to stop this. Now of course the EU is dressing this up as defending Ireland's rights / Good Friday agreement. We should tell the EU this is their problem to solve rather than them imposing EU restrictions on part of the UK.
"The Good Friday Agreement of 1998 relied heavily on membership of the European Union, with free movement between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland a key part of that. Brexit will upset this delicate balance of power in the region and risk, as John Major has warned, the return of the "hard men" to Northern Ireland. "People regard the peace process, that was very hard-earned [as certain]," he warned earlier this year. "People shouldn't regard it as a given. It is uncertain, it is under stress, it is fragile." As Irish columnist Fintan O'Toole wrote, Brexit means that "English nationalists have planted a bomb under the settlement that brought peace to Northern Ireland." Business Insider
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 17 Nov 17 7.06pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Yes, indeed, all that and more.. "The Good Friday Agreement of 1998 relied heavily on membership of the European Union, with free movement between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland a key part of that. Brexit will upset this delicate balance of power in the region and risk, as John Major has warned, the return of the "hard men" to Northern Ireland. "People regard the peace process, that was very hard-earned [as certain]," he warned earlier this year. "People shouldn't regard it as a given. It is uncertain, it is under stress, it is fragile." As Irish columnist Fintan O'Toole wrote, Brexit means that "English nationalists have planted a bomb under the settlement that brought peace to Northern Ireland." Business Insider Scaremongering Remainer nonsense. [Grovelling apologies to scaremongers, Remainers, Mr. O'Toole, John Major and peddlers of nonsense in general.] Edited by hedgehog50 (17 Nov 2017 7.36pm)
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corkery  Cork City 17 Nov 17 7.53pm |
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They couldn't control the border with 5,000 soldiers, 30 EU customs officers are not going to be able to do much.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 17 Nov 17 8.44pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Scaremongering Remainer nonsense. [Grovelling apologies to scaremongers, Remainers, Mr. O'Toole, John Major and peddlers of nonsense in general.] Edited by hedgehog50 (17 Nov 2017 7.36pm) I understand the intricacies of Brexit may be hard for some to take on board in a cerebral way. Apologies to those who cannot help lowering their intellect when it involves Johnny Foreigner and no offence intended. Edited by Kermit8 (17 Nov 2017 8.46pm)
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