Good video, that second one. The remain one seems to have a lot unsubstantiated claims, which is all mostly all they seem able to come up with. The leave side has factual arguments.

You seem to be getting angry davemonkey, and in a week where we should all be happy having reached the fa cup final.....and i am happy being challenged by anyone you care to refer me to...because ultimately based on the economic principle that consumers act rationally he would, like you be talking out of his elbow. But i do agree with him that we are 'touched' by the eu, not only in terms of regulation but as intellectuals or heads of government/departments have stated just in the last week we would be safer, better off, etc etc if we remain. If i take the IMF they say GDP woukd be down between 1.5 -9.5% (in the worst case scenario) ...what does/could this mean ....it means the health budget could have to be cut by £14billion!!! The pensions budget cut by 15billion!!!
The treasury tells us that we could be 4300 worse off per household pa. With 19million households in the uk that means that uk consumers would be be 81billion worse off.....and i know that you will say that the figures are scaremongering blah blah but they are the official forecasts from independent and government organisations.
I too have a healthy respect for economic forecasts. I remember back in july 2007 i was wrting my q2 investment report (i was the cio for a middle/large fund manager) and we had been hearing from the OECD/large number of economists/ IMF etc that there was a housing bubble in the uk and a significant subprime problem in the US. Mervyn King and Alan Greenspan both said there wasnt a problem. Luckily i decided they were soothsayers because i knew $800billion of subprime debt is no small issue and rearrnaged the portfolios accordingly. Now when i hear the biggest warnings from the likes of the IMF, OECD etc alongside my own opinion i would take heed.....and i think the British public are beginning to see through the false propoganda and lies of the leave campaign and will hopefully behave like rational consumers. Most would probably think, hang on that 4300 could buy me 8 season tickets, 1500 pints of wetherspoons lager or enough to feed and clothe my kids for a year, but if i offered to give you 4300 pa i'll bet you (whatever rocks your boat) that you would still vote to leave...and chin chin old son that is irrational.

Tony Blair's speech writer, who also happened to be lead author of "the" immigration speech by Barbara Roche (then Minister of Immigration) that opened up the floodgates:

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Claims subsequently verified via a 2010 Freedom of Information request of draft copies of the policy paper, referring extensively to "social objectives" that did not appear in the final copy. The stated aims of the paper are to make the UK "multicultural" via mass migration, but to obfuscate from the public the reasons why they were opening the floodgates. Your denial is living testament to that aim.

I don't even know why I'm bothering. Left-wing multiculties are deaf to evidence, and blind to the effects. Let's all sit down and sing kumbaya.

Latest Mori poll: 1,000 randomly asked

Remain a member of the European Union: 48%

Leave the European Union: 35%

Undecided: 14%

Would not vote:3%

I make that 65% idiots/potential idiots according to monkeychops and 35% the enlightened, sensible brave new world few also according to monkeychops.

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Big chest and massive boobs

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It'll be rigged in favour of 'remain' anyway.