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 Seagles  Croydon 25 Mar 21 9.38am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Once again, Watson literally owns a media company. So you are just being literal......If not I have to question your idea that you think Watson is criticising right wing media here or himself. And again...and I'm having to repeat myself here.....There are multiple videos on this topic that have been made on this by Watson. Do you seriously think these five examples are it? The leftist media are anti white and look to emphasize white crimes while downplaying non white crimes. Fortunately HOL isnt a right wing sounding board, I doubt many of your peers on here will be as familiar with watson as you appear to be so posting his video of cherry picked examples and hypocritical conclusion is your mistake not mine. I have critiqued the video you linked to and stand by my criticisms. As you yourself pointed out the video itself suffers from the same problems that all short form media does. I've noticed that you cant let a post go unanswered so I'm going to leave this one here. Until next time
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| Stirlingsays 25 Mar 21 9.50am |
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Originally posted by Seagles
Fortunately HOL isnt a right wing sounding board, I doubt many of your peers on here will be as familiar with watson as you appear to be so posting his video of cherry picked examples and hypocritical conclusion is your mistake not mine. I have critiqued the video you linked to and stand by my criticisms. As you yourself pointed out the video itself suffers from the same problems that all short form media does. I've noticed that you cant let a post go unanswered so I'm going to leave this one here. Until next time
All you want to do is 'poison the well' because it's stuff you don't want said.
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| Seagles Croydon 25 Mar 21 11.02am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
All you want to do is 'poison the well' because it's stuff you don't want said. Urgh ok I'll rise to the bait. For the sake of reason let's assume the articles and stats he uses are true. That's not the issue. The issue is that he has cherry picked a handful of arguments that fit his narrative, but nothing to suggest whether these articles are representative of the wider media. He offers no stats about what issues are reported and what issues aren't and no evidence to back up his assertion that "the media" is racist against white people other than a handful of selectively chosen stories. So it doesn't matter if the stories are true or not as they dont back up his conclusions. Who knows he might be right, but he certainly hasn't demonstrated it here. He demonises the articles for tarnishing a whole group of people - white people - based on the actions of just a few white people. Then he tarnishes a whole group of people - the media - based on the actions of just a few of them. That, my friend, is the very definition of hypocrisy. Sorry if I'm repeating myself but nothing has changed since my first post so theres nothing new to add!
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| Eaglecoops CR3 25 Mar 21 11.27am |
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Originally posted by Seagles
Urgh ok I'll rise to the bait. For the sake of reason let's assume the articles and stats he uses are true. That's not the issue. The issue is that he has cherry picked a handful of arguments that fit his narrative, but nothing to suggest whether these articles are representative of the wider media. He offers no stats about what issues are reported and what issues aren't and no evidence to back up his assertion that "the media" is racist against white people other than a handful of selectively chosen stories. So it doesn't matter if the stories are true or not as they dont back up his conclusions. Who knows he might be right, but he certainly hasn't demonstrated it here. He demonises the articles for tarnishing a whole group of people - white people - based on the actions of just a few white people. Then he tarnishes a whole group of people - the media - based on the actions of just a few of them. That, my friend, is the very definition of hypocrisy. Sorry if I'm repeating myself but nothing has changed since my first post so theres nothing new to add! What, you mean like no one else does? Such actions are common place amongst any side of an argument to prove a point.
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| Stirlingsays 25 Mar 21 11.31am |
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Originally posted by Seagles
Urgh ok I'll rise to the bait. For the sake of reason let's assume the articles and stats he uses are true. That's not the issue. The issue is that he has cherry picked a handful of arguments that fit his narrative, but nothing to suggest whether these articles are representative of the wider media. He offers no stats about what issues are reported and what issues aren't and no evidence to back up his assertion that "the media" is racist against white people other than a handful of selectively chosen stories. So it doesn't matter if the stories are true or not as they dont back up his conclusions. Who knows he might be right, but he certainly hasn't demonstrated it here. He demonises the articles for tarnishing a whole group of people - white people - based on the actions of just a few white people. Then he tarnishes a whole group of people - the media - based on the actions of just a few of them. That, my friend, is the very definition of hypocrisy. Sorry if I'm repeating myself but nothing has changed since my first post so theres nothing new to add! I've answered both of your points. You just repeat them like the reply never happened. Ok, I will repeat my replies: Once again, Watson is obviously referring to leftist media, which is anti white. He isn't for example showing examples of anti white right wing media because it, in the main, doesn't really exist. If you look at other videos he has presented far more than just the examples you complain about on this. Watson is showing collected evidence of anti white media, he isn't required to meet some criteria bar that you have decided for him. I'll urge anyone reading this to watch his video and make your own mind up on the validity of what it contains.
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cryrst  The garden of England 25 Mar 21 12.30pm |
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Originally posted by Seagles
Urgh ok I'll rise to the bait. For the sake of reason let's assume the articles and stats he uses are true. That's not the issue. The issue is that he has cherry picked a handful of arguments that fit his narrative, but nothing to suggest whether these articles are representative of the wider media. He offers no stats about what issues are reported and what issues aren't and no evidence to back up his assertion that "the media" is racist against white people other than a handful of selectively chosen stories. So it doesn't matter if the stories are true or not as they dont back up his conclusions. Who knows he might be right, but he certainly hasn't demonstrated it here. He demonises the articles for tarnishing a whole group of people - white people - based on the actions of just a few white people. Then he tarnishes a whole group of people - the media - based on the actions of just a few of them. That, my friend, is the very definition of hypocrisy. Sorry if I'm repeating myself but nothing has changed since my first post so theres nothing new to add! So how many more examples than a handful do you need to make it 'beleiveable'. Say 10 or 20 or 50.
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| DanH SW2 25 Mar 21 12.45pm |
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Originally posted by Seagles
Fortunately HOL isnt a right wing sounding board, I doubt many of your peers on here will be as familiar with watson as you appear to be so posting his video of cherry picked examples and hypocritical conclusion is your mistake not mine. I have critiqued the video you linked to and stand by my criticisms. As you yourself pointed out the video itself suffers from the same problems that all short form media does. I've noticed that you cant let a post go unanswered so I'm going to leave this one here. Until next time You’ve not been here long have you...? ....oh, maybe long enough.
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| Stirlingsays 25 Mar 21 1.27pm |
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Grumpy. Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Mar 2021 1.28pm)
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| DanH SW2 25 Mar 21 1.29pm |
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You can be Dopey and Hrolf can be Happy
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| Stirlingsays 25 Mar 21 1.33pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
You can be Dopey and Hrolf can be Happy Quite a good troll...bitchy but I like it.
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| Lombardinho London 25 Mar 21 1.35pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
You can be Dopey and Hrolf can be Happy Hello Smug Dan.
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| Seagles Croydon 25 Mar 21 1.40pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So how many more examples than a handful do you need to make it 'beleiveable'. Say 10 or 20 or 50. A gold medal is a wonderful thing - I like the bit about red or blue It doesn't matter how many examples you use, examples should be used as supporting evidence for an argument not the basis of it. To prove his point he needs to show what the examples actually mean. If he was able to show that, for example, "75% of cops killing blacks is reported but only 25% of cops killing whites is reported" or something along those lines - then he would have a case. Instead what he has is some stories about blacks being killed by cops, 2 of which were initially mis reported, and a load of hyperbole. And shouting - the fringe media love to shout!
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