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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Jun 19 2.43pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree
Don't you dare say I would like this suppressed On the contrary, I would like all cases addressed immediately and to the highest degree. Yet you only taken an interest in this topic when it suits your agenda. I grew up bordering Shirley Oaks, I know people that were permanently affected. Believe me, this is an area about which I feel passionate. And one where I don't want false news - suiting the personal agendas of individuals - to cloud the issue. In which case, why do you expend your energy condemning Robinson instead of helping expose the truth about what is really at the heart of the unprecedented number of separate incidences of mass rape and abuse we are experiencing? A cynic would say that you are more concerned with the former.
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Mapletree Croydon 23 Jun 19 3.13pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
In which case, why do you expend your energy condemning Robinson instead of helping expose the truth about what is really at the heart of the unprecedented number of separate incidences of mass rape and abuse we are experiencing? A cynic would say that you are more concerned with the former. Guess what, I have the bandwidth to do both. But I don't, apart from an occasional comment on this august site I completely ignore Mr Lennon. The same point applies in reverse. Why do you insist on treating Lennon as some kind of Messiah when there are still many unresolved cases e.g. in the Catholic Church. Why don't you, Lennon or anyone else talk about Beechwood? Investigations are still ongoing. There were 136 allegations of sexual abuse from children there between the 1960s and the 1990s. Or Quarriers. Or Shirley Oaks. Or Haut de la Garenne. At Bryn Estyn there were 700 allegations of abuse involving 170 individuals. There had been "appalling mistreatment" of children over a period of 20 years. All of these cases deserve an airing and none is resolved, unlike the recent Muslim gang based cases. In many ways these are worse than the recent ones, children were killed and still almost nobody has been brought to justice. Get your mate 'Tommy' on these and maybe I would give him some credit.
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Park Road 23 Jun 19 3.31pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by steve1984
Common little cvnt - all mouth no trousers. Naughtiness, indeed needs a cvnt, all the mouth, and of course no trousers... Ooops! I was thinking c'mon you cvnt... Not a common sad cvnt.
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Penge Eagle Beckenham 23 Jun 19 3.33pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree
Guess what, I have the bandwidth to do both. But I don't, apart from an occasional comment on this august site I completely ignore Mr Lennon. The same point applies in reverse. Why do you insist on treating Lennon as some kind of Messiah when there are still many unresolved cases e.g. in the Catholic Church. Why don't you, Lennon or anyone else talk about Beechwood? Investigations are still ongoing. There were 136 allegations of sexual abuse from children there between the 1960s and the 1990s. Or Quarriers. Or Shirley Oaks. Or Haut de la Garenne. At Bryn Estyn there were 700 allegations of abuse involving 170 individuals. There had been "appalling mistreatment" of children over a period of 20 years. All of these cases deserve an airing and none is resolved, unlike the recent Muslim gang based cases. In many ways these are worse than the recent ones, children were killed and still almost nobody has been brought to justice. Get your mate 'Tommy' on these and maybe I would give him some credit. Where do you draw the line? Robinson should campaign about unsolved murders as well? He's perfectly entitled to campaign on a single issue like many others do. Edited by Penge Eagle (23 Jun 2019 3.33pm)
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Teddy Eagle 23 Jun 19 3.47pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It has nothing at all to do with any kind of political correctness! We just need to avoid attaching labels to people that are irrelevant. The people involved are criminals. Whether they are called Smith, Murphy, Patel, Cohen or Khan makes no difference. You judge people as individuals by what they do and do not associate any innocents. We need to encourage the vast majority of perfectly decent, law abiding, culture respecting British muslims to condemn and isolate every criminal who originates inside their community. What we must not do is drive them into the arms of the radicals by not opening ours to them. Which is why "Robinson" is such a dangerous rabble rouser who deserves the roasting he regularly receives. So what was the end game here? Was this never to be reported? As regards the condemnation and isolation; how is that going?
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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Jun 19 3.54pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree
Guess what, I have the bandwidth to do both. But I don't, apart from an occasional comment on this august site I completely ignore Mr Lennon. The same point applies in reverse. Why do you insist on treating Lennon as some kind of Messiah when there are still many unresolved cases e.g. in the Catholic Church. Why don't you, Lennon or anyone else talk about Beechwood? Investigations are still ongoing. There were 136 allegations of sexual abuse from children there between the 1960s and the 1990s. Or Quarriers. Or Shirley Oaks. Or Haut de la Garenne. At Bryn Estyn there were 700 allegations of abuse involving 170 individuals. There had been "appalling mistreatment" of children over a period of 20 years. All of these cases deserve an airing and none is resolved, unlike the recent Muslim gang based cases. In many ways these are worse than the recent ones, children were killed and still almost nobody has been brought to justice. Get your mate 'Tommy' on these and maybe I would give him some credit. Find an example of where I ever did that. You are clearly more interested in exposing Robinson as a racist than exposing abuse. You mention previous cases of abuse which are tiny in number compared to recent cases involving organised pakistani gangs and that retreat back to the most feeble whataboutery shows how desperate you are to avoid facing the reality of all this head on. Pathetic.
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cryrst The garden of England 23 Jun 19 4.18pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree
Guess what, I have the bandwidth to do both. But I don't, apart from an occasional comment on this august site I completely ignore Mr Lennon. The same point applies in reverse. Why do you insist on treating Lennon as some kind of Messiah when there are still many unresolved cases e.g. in the Catholic Church. Why don't you, Lennon or anyone else talk about Beechwood? Investigations are still ongoing. There were 136 allegations of sexual abuse from children there between the 1960s and the 1990s. Or Quarriers. Or Shirley Oaks. Or Haut de la Garenne. At Bryn Estyn there were 700 allegations of abuse involving 170 individuals. There had been "appalling mistreatment" of children over a period of 20 years. All of these cases deserve an airing and none is resolved, unlike the recent Muslim gang based cases. In many ways these are worse than the recent ones, children were killed and still almost nobody has been brought to justice. Get your mate 'Tommy' on these and maybe I would give him some credit.
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Mapletree Croydon 23 Jun 19 4.41pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Find an example of where I ever did that. You are clearly more interested in exposing Robinson as a racist than exposing abuse. You mention previous cases of abuse which are tiny in number compared to recent cases involving organised pakistani gangs and that retreat back to the most feeble whataboutery shows how desperate you are to avoid facing the reality of all this head on. Pathetic. Tiny cases? You really have no idea. And you lived right next to one of the huge ones. People died, how do I get that across to you?
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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Jun 19 4.58pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree
Tiny cases? You really have no idea. And you lived right next to one of the huge ones. People died, how do I get that across to you? But we aren't talking about those cases that happened many years ago. We are talking about stuff going right now involving huge numbers. I have no doubt that the cases you refer to were covered up making convictions difficult, and yet you spend energy condemning someone who has exposed multiple new examples.
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Mapletree Croydon 23 Jun 19 6.56pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
But we aren't talking about those cases that happened many years ago. We are talking about stuff going right now involving huge numbers. I have no doubt that the cases you refer to were covered up making convictions difficult, and yet you spend energy condemning someone who has exposed multiple new examples. I did not know that. Which did he expose? How did he find them? Is he a detective? Or has he just jumped on pre-existing cases to make himself a cause celebre?
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Teddy Eagle 23 Jun 19 7.02pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree
I did not know that. Which did he expose? How did he find them? Is he a detective? Or has he just jumped on pre-existing cases to make himself a cause celebre? And prevented further cases from happening which is the key point to me.
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cryrst The garden of England 23 Jun 19 8.14pm | |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Mapletree
I did not know that. Which did he expose? How did he find them? Is he a detective? Or has he just jumped on pre-existing cases to make himself a cause celebre? Clearly he took the time and now the cross hairs on him and his to bring it to the public ( well he tried).
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